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Still very early to tell (which is part of the fun, looking through the fog) but it's quite possible that the most damaging legal case against Trump may very well not come from The Special Counsel's Office.

• Mueller: Russian Collusion
• SDNY: Cohen /Trump Businesses
• NY Attorney General: Trump Charities
• New Jersey & D.C. Attorneys General: Emoluments
• Manhattan U.S. Attorney's Office: Trump Inaugural Committee

This is not a list of all of the lawsuits against Trump. If someone feels there is another suit that is a bigger danger, please post.

In looking at the list, the Russia Probe, if it can be proven, is the biggest potential threat. I am not entirely sure if Trump will be an unindicted co-conspirator. Obviously a lot of people around him were involved in shady deals, but a lot depends on the physical evidence and electronic data that Mueller has collected.

But if you look at all of the other suits that Trump faces, there would appear to be the potential for more clear cut violations of the law. Trump might be able to survive the damage of one suit, but if 2 or more proceed substantially, Trump could conceivably be a un-impeached but very damaged.

It is conceivable that the Democrats would not proceed with Impeachment. They could let a damaged Trump stay in the White House and take their chances in 2020. If their hesitance to impeach is considered Constitutional prudence it could help their chances in 2020. But if enough people are outraged by the President's conduct, they would have a hard time standing in opposition to impeachment.

And tonight we have the State of the Union. May you live in interesting times.

It should be noted that to date, Republicans have blocked a total of 52 subpoena requests for critical documents and testimony being withheld by the Trump Administration and others relating to matters within the House Oversight Committee’s core oversight jurisdiction. This is what the HOC is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... and_Reform

To state that the GOP has become a 5th column within our government and a threat to our democracy is not only the truth, but an urgent one at that.

- Doc

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:It should be noted that to date, Republicans have blocked a total of 52 subpoena requests for critical documents and testimony being withheld by the Trump Administration and others relating to matters within the House Oversight Committee’s core oversight jurisdiction. This is what the HOC is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... and_Reform

To state that the GOP has become a 5th column within our government and a threat to our democracy is not only the truth, but an urgent one at that.

- Doc

The Party of Lincoln became the Party of Jefferson Davis on its way to becoming the Party of Putin.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:It should be noted that to date, Republicans have blocked a total of 52 subpoena requests for critical documents and testimony being withheld by the Trump Administration and others relating to matters within the House Oversight Committee’s core oversight jurisdiction. This is what the HOC is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... and_Reform

To state that the GOP has become a 5th column within our government and a threat to our democracy is not only the truth, but an urgent one at that.

- Doc

( ... upon reading this, a typical Trump Supporter then walks off in a random direction, staring at nothing in particular and chanting, “Lock her up! Lock her up!!” ...)

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:It should be noted that to date, Republicans have blocked a total of 52 subpoena requests for critical documents and testimony being withheld by the Trump Administration and others relating to matters within the House Oversight Committee’s core oversight jurisdiction. This is what the HOC is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... and_Reform

To state that the GOP has become a 5th column within our government and a threat to our democracy is not only the truth, but an urgent one at that.

- Doc

Ok, apart from your Reddit regurgitations, let us pause and pretend some of us pay attention to American political history and basic civics.

But its funny how in the face of yet another unfounded allegation you fall on Republicans blocking as opposed to Democrats incessant wasting of time- for example, reading many of those subpoenas one finds that there is no effective outcome.

“If you are dying for media attention you send a subpoena,” Gowdy said in an interview. “If you’re sending a subpoena to someone you know is not going to comply with it or you know does not have to comply with it, then it’s all showmanship.”

The current DNC strategy of death by a thousand accusations is impressive but that doesn't make it any less stupid (remember Eric Holder's reaction to all those subpoenas?).

because of constitutional questions like executive authority and the separation of powers, subpoena showdowns between previous administrations and opposition Congresses often took years to litigate, in some cases resolving only after the White House had already changed hands.

Nothing you posted changes the fact the GOP is blocking the subpoenas. What did you hope to accomplish with that crap show of a post? When you state the allegations are unfounded all you're doing is basically yelping, 'Witch hunt!'

I don't think you actually understand anything you post, but you just kind of forge ahead anyway. Weird.

- Doc

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Nothing you posted changes the fact the GOP is blocking the subpoenas.

Ok ok, like how your post changed the fact that these subpoenas are a waste of time and are the desperate act of a DNC consumed by the hair fire of 2016.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:What did you hope to accomplish with that crap show of a post? When you state the allegations are unfounded all you're doing is basically yelping, 'Witch hunt!'

I don't think you actually understand anything you post, but you just kind of forge ahead anyway. Weird.

- Doc

Gee, i don't know you were Dick Cheney but your "if you've got nothing to hide then don't worry" argument is very well understood. But please, feel feee to lay some actual foundation for how the +50 subpoenas are ripe with substance and effectiveness instead of simply being another Democratic sideshow to distract the emotional invalides from the sad absence of principles and imagination in their 1 ring circus tent. Ya know? because you soooo understand your posts about +52 subpoenas.

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I had an attack of conscience.

- Doc

Before Bach is able to point it out, what about the special investigation to be held in Limestone County, Alabama on the "Wit and Wisdom of Donald J. Trump"?

If those Limestonian jurists returned positive evidence that Trump possesses wit and wisdom, I bet EAallusion, Kevin Graham, and Jersey Girl will pretend the finding does not actually exist. And Shades would probably go along with it. So there.