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Posted: **Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:32 pm**

Trump’s 2020 Budget Is the Largest in Federal History—and It Would Entirely Eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/Trump ... ts-1490917

It’s that time of year again: the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities are in trouble, with President Donald Trump again aiming to eliminate the two agencies, this time in his budget for the 2020 fiscal year.

Trump unveiled the whopping $4.75 trillion budget—the largest in federal history—on March 11, but details about his plans for the NEA and NEH were only revealed today, in the administration’s full proposal. According to the documents, the NEA’s budget is marked at $29 million and the NEH’s is at $38 million—which the proposal describes as “sufficient funding for orderly termination of all operations over two years.” (artnet News previously reported that the two agencies would cost a quarter of their annual budgets just to shut down.)

“The Administration does not consider NEA [or NEH] activities to be core Federal responsibilities,” according to the plan, which would also defund the Institute of Museum and Library Services.

Since 2017, Trump has been vocal in his desire to eliminate the two agencies entirely. That plan is widely opposed, even by some Republicans.

Posted: **Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:56 pm**

Kevin Graham wrote:“The Administration does not consider NEA [or NEH] activities to be core Federal responsibilities,” . . .

Does anyone else?

Since 2017, Trump has been vocal in his desire to eliminate the two agencies entirely.

Hmm, maybe there's hope for him after all.

Posted: **Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:06 pm**

Dr. Shades wrote:
Kevin Graham wrote:“The Administration does not consider NEA [or NEH] activities to be core Federal responsibilities,” . . .

Does anyone else?

You have to be aware that a lot of people do think that way. Does it amuse you to pretend to think otherwise? You have .... let us say ... an unusual sense of humor.

Posted: **Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:05 pm**

Dr. Shades wrote:
Kevin Graham wrote:“The Administration does not consider NEA [or NEH] activities to be core Federal responsibilities,” . . .

Does anyone else?

Since 2017, Trump has been vocal in his desire to eliminate the two agencies entirely.

Hmm, maybe there's hope for him after all.

Pretty strange coming from a guy whose life seems to revolve around Japanese arts.

:lol:

Not into the domestic stuff?

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:31 am**

I’m sure that if we wait long enough, these sorts of diverse explorations into culture and history will be recorded and highlighted for the general public by Corporations, or maybe even Fox.

Besides, for what the NEH will cost to operate this year, we could instead launch two-fifths of a strike against a largely defunct Syrian airfield, in an attempt to knock it out of operation for a day.

Division of Public Programs Awards List
November Council 2018

Digital Projects for the Public
Discovery

Tokyo’s Long Nineteenth Century: A Cultural Atlas of the City, 1787-1923
University of California, Berkeley
Berkeley, CA
Award: Outright; $30,000.00
Development of an online cultural atlas of the city of Edo/Tokyo in the years 1787–1923.

Courtroom 600: An Educational Virtual Reality Encounter with the History and Legacies of the Nuremberg Trials
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT
Award: Outright; $25,832.00
Development of a virtual reality experience on the trials of Nazi leadership at Nuremberg, Germany (1945–49).

'This Ain’t No Lunch Bucket Town': The Evolution of Urban Identity in Boise, Idaho
Boise State University
Boise, ID
Award: Outright; $30,000.00
Development of an interactive website and signage at ten sites in Boise, Idaho, to examine
the impact of deindustrialization on the city.

The Anatolian Trail: An Indo-European Adventure
University of Kentucky Research Foundation
Lexington, KY
Award: Outright; $30,000.00
Preliminary development of a video game on Proto-Indo-European and ancient Indo- European languages and cultures.

Cuffee’s Trial: A Digital Graphic Novel
Historic Hudson Valley
Pocantico Hills, NY
Award: Outright; $30,000.00
Development of an interactive digital graphic work of non-fiction examining the 1741 New
York Conspiracy through the trial of Cuffee, an enslaved man.

Remembering Lost Places: A Digital History of Urban Renewal
SUNY Research Foundation, Albany
Albany, NY
Award: Outright; $30,000.00
Development of an interactive website examining the history of urban renewal through the historical experience of Albany, New York.

Towards a Complete History of Art: Building an Interface that Connects Museum Data Internationally
New School
New York, NY
Award: Outright; $29,940.00
Development of a digital search tool connecting museum art object databases.

All the Appalachian Trails
George Mason University
Fairfax, VA
Award: Outright; $29,997.00
Development of an interactive website tracing the history of the Appalachian Trail and visualizing the significant changes to the trail.

Digital Projects for the Public
Prototyping

Resonant: Exploring Cultural Heritage through Game-based Virtual Reality
CyArk
Oakland, CA
Award: Match; $100,000.00
Development of a prototype of a virtual reality game exploring the ancient Native American site Mesa Verde, using existing archival three-dimensional scans.

Back to the City of the Sun
Cahokia Mounds Museum Society
Collinsville, IL
Award: Outright; $100,000.00
Creation of an augmented reality (AR) prototype, website, and educational resources based on the latest research and interpretation of the eleventh-century Native American settlement.

Chicago 00: Ferris Wheel
Chicago Historical Society
Chicago, IL
Award: Outright; $100,000.00
Development of a project prototype using augmented reality and virtual reality to explore the history of the 1893 World’s Columbian Exposition in Chicago.

Flight Paths: Mapping Our Changing Neighborhoods
Valparaiso University
Valparaiso, IN
Award: Outright; $100,000.00
Development of a prototype for a multimedia website exploring the social and economic effects of deindustrialization in Gary, Indiana, and the surrounding region.

Mapping Religious Transformation in Boston’s Hidden Sacred Spaces
Brandeis University
Waltham, MA
Award: Outright; $100,000.00
A mobile application, a website, and related radio programs that explore religious life in Boston through sacred spaces of public buildings.

A History of African American Music: Interactive Digital Timeline Prototyping Project
Carnegie Hall Corporation
New York, NY
Award: Outright; $100,000.00
Development of a website prototype and interactive timeline on the history of African American music.

Walking Through History: An Open Platform for Humanities Scholars and Organizations to Reach the Public Where They Stand
Marshall University Research Corporation
Huntington, WV
Award: Outright; $81,398.00
A prototype of a new user interface and four mobile tours charting the history of West Virginia using the digital platform Clio.

Digital Projects for the Public
Production

San Francisco's Buried History
Exploratorium
San Francisco, CA
Award: Outright; $200,000.00
Production of a mobile-optimized website, a walking tour, and a museum exhibition exploring the history of underground and submerged sites in downtown San Francisco and the Bay.

Discover Indiana II
Trustees of Indiana University
Indianapolis, IN
Award: Outright; $150,000.00
Expansion of the existing Discover Indiana website and mobile application highlighting local history tours and stories across seventeen counties in a statewide initiative.

The Banjo Project: Stories of America's Instrument
Center for Independent Documentary, Inc.
Boston, MA
Award: Outright; $100,000.00
Production of a website on the history and legacy of banjo music.

Wireless Philosophy
Squire Family Foundation
East Northport, NY
Award: Outright; $250,000.00
Production of one hundred short animated videos dealing with a variety of topics in philosophy.

The Virtual Martin Luther King Project: Producing Digital Experiences and Recovering Civil Rights History
North Carolina State University
Raleigh, NC
Award: Outright; $200,000.00
Production of a permanent and traveling multimedia exhibition and enhancements to a website exploring a little known but historically significant speech by Martin Luther King Jr.

NEH on the Road

The following organizations received $1,000 grants for ancillary public humanities programs to accompany NEH on the Road traveling exhibitions.

Spirited, Prohibition in America
Northern Indiana Historical Society
South Bend, IN

The Power of Children
Sioux City Museum and Historical Association
Sioux City, IA

Power of Children
Ypsilanti District Library
Ypsilanti, MI

Bandits and Heroes
Missouri Southern State University Spiva Art Gallery
Joplin, MO

Jacob A. Riis
M.P. Baker Library/Panola College
Carthage, Texas

For All the World to See
Central Washington University
Ellensburg, Washington

Posted: **Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:58 pm**

Kevin Graham wrote:Pretty strange coming from a guy whose life seems to revolve around Japanese arts.

Not into the domestic stuff?

So, if I like Perfume, I automatically think non-fans should be forced, through taxation, to subsidize Perfume's career?

Posted: **Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:15 pm**

Dr. Shades wrote:
Kevin Graham wrote:Pretty strange coming from a guy whose life seems to revolve around Japanese arts.

Not into the domestic stuff?

So, if I like Perfume, I automatically think non-fans should be forced, through taxation, to subsidize Perfume's career?

We all pay for crap that benefits people other than ourselves. The tiny amount that goes towards the NEA is so small that it is just laughable that people would even complain about it. We were just informed by idiots like subgenius that $30-70 billion for a wall should be paid for just because it would give scared snowflakes on the Right peace of mind. It is just a fraction of a fraction of the budget, not even 1/2 of 1%. And yet the budget for the NEA is under a mere $1 billion.

But funding Perfume's career wasn't the point. Advocates for these kinds of programs are typically those who have an appreciation for such things while the critics are typically those who do not. They think it is all a waste. And that was why I made that comment.

What is the role of the government when it comes to supporting the arts?

The Arts Endowment’s role is to make sure all Americans have access to the arts no matter where they live. All
435 Congressional Districts benefit from Arts Endowment grants. Agency funding:

• Creates an environment for the arts to bloom and thrive.
• Acts as a catalyst to leverage resources for key investments in communities across the nation.
• Stimulates giving; every dollar invested directly by the Arts Endowment is matched by up to $9 of
additional non-federal or private investment.
• Contributes to our economy, with the arts and culture sector accounting for $804.2 billion or 4.3
percent of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in 2016 as noted by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.
• Adds millions of jobs to our workforce (more than two million full-time artists and five million arts related jobs).
• Plays a vital role in revitalizing communities, and supports our military service members through a
military healing arts program.

It helps to understand what it is he's proposing to abolish. We all know the clown in the White House has no education about really anything that pertains to this country. He gets all his policy advice from nut job bloggers on far Right websites.

For people like my step-dad who hates all music, doesn't watch movies, and has absolutely no appreciation for culture other than FOX News, I can understand why they'd be against the NEA. But you don't seem like that.

As to why Republicans hate it so much... I couldn't figure it out until I read this:

A significant percentage of grants benefit those who have
fewer opportunities to participate in the arts:

• 65 percent of Arts Endowment grants go to small and medium sized organizations, which tend to
support projects that benefit audiences that otherwise might not have access to arts programming.
• 40 percent of NEA-supported activities take place in high-poverty neighborhoods.
• 36 percent of Arts Endowment grants go to organizations that reach underserved populations such as
people with disabilities, people in institutions, and veterans.
• More than half of NEA-funded art events take place in locations where the median household income
is less than $50,000.

Oh, that's why. Anything that benefits the poor in any way is something they'll fight against on principle.

Posted: **Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:27 pm**

I support defunding the NEA in principle, but it is so far down the list of priorities of what should be defunded that every actual attempt at it displays such contempt for what matters that I oppose it in practice.

I too have a problem with confiscating people’s property to fund the aesthetic preferences of others, even if those preferences match my own. I am familiar with the arguments for public funding of the arts and I do not think they are sufficient to overcome this core objection.

Posted: **Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:18 pm**

EAllusion wrote:I support defunding the NEA in principle, but it is so far down the list of priorities of what should be defunded that every actual attempt at it displays such contempt for what matters that I oppose it in practice.

I too have a problem with confiscating people’s property to fund the aesthetic preferences of others, even if those preferences match my own. I am familiar with the arguments for public funding of the arts and I do not think they are sufficient to overcome this core objection.

Oh you radical leftist, you. :lol:

Posted: **Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:00 pm**

Kevin Graham wrote:We all pay for ____ that benefits people other than ourselves.

True, but those benefits tend to be (at least I hope) far more concrete than the arts. For example, my taxes may fund a road that I might never use, but that road facilitates the rapid transit of goods from point A to point B, making my country better.

I also benefit when my taxes go to funding some kid other than myself to become literate. A literate citizen is far more likely to contribute to my country--or, better yet, become my customer if I own a business--than someone non-literate.

But when it comes to seeing a painting or hearing music, that other person may be entertained, but it's not really necessary to him, her or me, nor does it make the country objectively better.

The tiny amount that goes towards the NEA is so small that it is just laughable that people would even complain about it.

It's the principle. If, say, we paid out only one penny in tribute to North Korea to not attack us, I'd still be opposed to it on principle alone.

But funding Perfume's career wasn't the point. Advocates for these kinds of programs are typically those who have an appreciation for such things while the critics are typically those who do not. They think it is all a waste.

It technically is a waste, since the arts aren't necessary to anyone. If they can't survive through private funding, then they don't have any inherent right to continue existing. Witness the notorious "Piss Christ" exhibit.

For people like my step-dad who hates all music, doesn't watch movies, and has absolutely no appreciation for culture other than FOX News, I can understand why they'd be against the NEA. But you don't seem like that.

No, I can definitely appreciate the arts, but I recognize that they're not necessary to my or anyone else's survival. If I can't pay for them out of my own pocket, then I don't (and shouldn't) have the right to force anyone to pay my ticket for me through involuntary taxation.

For example, I'm flying out to San Jose, California next month to attend Perfume's concert. I wouldn't dream of trying to get someone else to pay for either my event ticket or my plane ticket to get there. If I couldn't afford it, then that's on me.

Oh, that's why. Anything that benefits the poor in any way is something they'll fight against on principle.

That's not why I'm against it. The military, which taxes pay for, indirectly benefit the poor, but the arts don't. They're nice, but not necessary. Taxes should only fund the latter, not the former (in my opinion).

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