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Who benefits from the stock market?

Whose is enjoying this economy? Farmers?

Does your leader inspire you? Does he have integrity? How does he deal with opponents? Contrast that with Obama?

How is your healthcare system? Great technology but not everyone can afford to enjoy the benefits.

If "socialism" is so bad why have the happiest Nordic country adopted those policies.

The US has infrastructure needs. How will you pay for that considering your growing debt.?

The United States truly and totally sucks, aussieguy55.

Happy now?

aussieguy55 you hit the nail smack on the head! Yes, it's true. All true. We're living in crap over here.

In a custom built home with no mortgage, more cars than anyone has a right to, traveling, donating, no bills except the utilities and insurance, and free health care for the rest of our lives.

I just wish some generous soul would charitably dig us out of the shithole we're living in.

It's getting really bad over here! Help, I'm desperate!

aussieguy55 wrote:https://www.alternet.org/2019/07/an-american-tragedy-empires-in-decline-tend-to-behave-badly/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=880

Who benefits from the stock market?

People who invest wisely into it?

Whose is enjoying this economy? Farmers?

Farmers (to include livestock) seem to be enjoying our economy:

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ ... nd-prices/

Millions upon millions of people are trying to illegally enter the US to enjoy our shithole economy, apparently. I'm enjoying the economy. Kevin Graham seems to be enjoying the economy. Judging by my city's insane growth right now, it seems to be enjoying the economy.

Does your leader inspire you? Does he have integrity? How does he deal with opponents? Contrast that with Obama?

I voted for Hillary Clinton. Who the “F” are you talking to right now, or do you just do this spam thing that you do without actually thinking about your audience?

How is your healthcare system? Great technology but not everyone can afford to enjoy the benefits.

How would you suggest we universalize our healthcare now that we're creeping up on $22T in national debt?

If "socialism" is so bad why have the happiest Nordic country adopted those policies.

According to Leftists the Nordic countries are capitalist economies that have implemented socialist programs, just to a greater degree than we have. Do you actually believe the Nordic countries are Socialist?

The US has infrastructure needs. How will you pay for that considering your growing debt.?

Yeah. How about that debt, and yet you're clamoring up a storm about our lack of universal healthcare?

What's your deal? I hope, just out of a sense of proportionality, you spend a good amount of time on Indonesian forums bitching about their state, since it has a much more direct influence on your country and your country's affairs than does the US.

- Doc

Does your leader inspire you?

Absolutely. I honestly thought the country was beyond saving much less that we'd ever have another Republican president. Nov 7, 2016 was the best day of my life. I'm inspired by what Trump has accomplished every day.

Dr Samuel Johnson in 18th century England was irritated by people who were always complaining that the country was being ruined.

"Sir", he said "You will find that there is a great deal of ruin in a country".

Aussieguy's approach would have similarly annoyed him.

Sure, the way so many Americans seem to think that universal tax-funded free healthcare would be a dreadful thing seems puzzling to people who (like me) basically like the country and its people, even though I would not want to live there. And how can it be that US public infrastructure has been allowed to get into its present state?

But recognising those specific issues as problems (as many Americans do) is a very different thing from vaguely breathless generalisations about an undefined and undefinable problem called 'decline'.

I will repeat a comment here I've made before. That being, I'd put The Retreat of Western Liberalism on a pre-election reading list for just about anyone who lives in what we affectionately call the West. That includes Australia. The US has a big orange-haired flag waving out in the open attached to our identity that makes it easy to play the game of, "at least we aren't like the US" and go about ones merry way. But that is just a false sense of security that things aren't as bad where one is. I mean, Australia was keeping immigrants offshore in deplorable conditions long before Trump rode down the escalator to declare our days of accepting the huddled masses were long gone and good riddance to them. We are all showing signs of some decline.

Is the United States in a state of decline?

Let's not confuse the United States with Trump's cognitive abilities.

I mean, Australia was keeping immigrants offshore in deplorable conditions long before Trump rode down the escalator to declare our days of accepting the huddled masses were long gone and good riddance to them.

I don' think that's really fair. I think the US still has a very generous immigration policy. But there has to be a limit. We can't take everyone forever. Whenever you have to set a limit like that, it could even escalate to war.

aussieguy55 wrote:Does your leader inspire you? Does he have integrity? How does he deal with opponents? Contrast that with Obama?

Obama did not inspire me, and it is not the charge of his office to do so. In America, our system is essentially a representative system whereas officials are not elected to direct us bur rather to reflect us. We are led by ourselves and to maintain an idea that our President and Senators, etc are anything other than colloquial leaders is un-American.

aussieguy55 wrote:How is your healthcare system? Great technology but not everyone can afford to enjoy the benefits.

This is a true statement for every system of every government. How is the water where you live? is it free? and is the cleanest and most beneficial water afforded to everyone without cost?

aussieguy55 wrote:If "socialism" is so bad why have the happiest Nordic country adopted those policies.

I do not believe you know what socialism means...and your claim for "happiest" is arbitrary and best left to the tourist industry. But hey, how many of those Nordic countries have their national security and defense systems subsidized by the USA? how many of those countries rely on the USA for resources, tech, and economics?....oh, and how are you able to resolve the scale of the USA with the scale of all or any Nordic country?
We all get your affection for constitutional monarchies, but your parallels are a bit skewed.

aussieguy55 wrote:The US has infrastructure needs. How will you pay for that considering your growing debt.?

with the savings from avoiding the money pit knows as national healthcare.