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Slaughter in Syria

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:47 am
by _subgenius
a.k.a., this is how you validate Trump and lather his voter base into an "i told you so" foam.

ABC uses 2016 footage from a gun range display to represent the fighting in Syria

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So, does this influence the credibility of ABC, or mainstream media in general?

Re: Slaughter in Syria

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:44 am
by _Icarus
I was wondering what took so long for someone to post this.

It was removed and ABC apologized once it was determined not to be from the war in Syria. None of this changes the fact that there is a war going on over there and people are dying by the hundreds. Some folks on the Reddit thread are accusing ABC of cropping and making it dark, but there is no evidence of that. I suspect someone from OANN submitted it anonymously to ABC and they took the bait, then OANN immediately calls them out for "fake news."

I would imagine that most cell phone type footages of on the ground war would be received anonymously so I'm not really upset about them posting something that just came to them and clearly looks like it is from an active war zone.

It strikes me as disingenuous that the people crying "Fake News" over this stuff, will happily binge on FOX news opinion shows throughout the night. This is the network who made an art out of fabricating videos to push a preferred narrative. Of course, one error by ABC means the entire "Mainstream Media" is at fault whereas a dozen, far more egregious examples from FOX means... nothing to see here, just move along.

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Re: Slaughter in Syria

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:11 am
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
FYI, that exact image first surfaced on 4chan yesterday. Soooo... You know. Subgenius and 4chan, again, for the win.

:rolleyes:

I wonder if Subgenius will read Icarus' post? Aw, who in the “F” am I kidding? If you Google the incident it was covered widely by the 'mainstream media' as evidenced:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/14/busi ... range.html

Since neither Subgenius nor Ajax have the capacity to read more than a few lines I've taken the liberty of breaking this 600+ word article down to:

ABC Showed Video From a Kentucky Gun Range.

ABC News apologized for its error but did not specify how it had occurred. <- They were being lazy "F"s.

Trump and Right-wing media don't care and blather on.

Here's a picture to reward Subgenius and Ajax for making it this far:
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- Doc

Re: Slaughter in Syria

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:09 am
by _Dr. Shades
Why is Trump riding in on the national animal of Russia?

Re: Slaughter in Syria

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:23 am
by _MeDotOrg
Dr. Shades wrote:Why is Trump riding in on the national animal of Russia?

Can you paint a Freudian Slip?

Re: Slaughter in Syria

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:48 am
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Dr. Shades wrote:Why is Trump riding in on the national animal of Russia?


I feel like I shouldn't have to break the joke down for another adult. Do I need to break the joke down for you, Dr. Shades? Because I can break down the joke and its symbolic imagery if you need that. Let me know, and I'll talk about the Great Wall in the background, the bear, his attire, the weapon in his hand, and the giant 'merican flag as it all works together to make a statement about our current sitting President.

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- Doc

Re: Slaughter in Syria

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:30 pm
by _subgenius
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/14/busi ... range.html

Since neither Subgenius nor Ajax have the capacity to read more than a few lines I've taken the liberty of breaking this 600+ word article down to:

Yes, reading for comprehension is something you should try on as well. The OP clearly speaks to the broader issue which is irrelevant of ABC eventually realizing they were reporting garbage...its the undeniable fact that it got reported to begin with...and such a low-bar for media performance is perfectly acceptable for you, but its consequence should not be.

Just look at Icarus's post wherein the poster sez "so what?" and then goes on to list other example of low-bar performance new reporting...as if the OP was giving any new agency a pass....in fact, if one bothers to read....

Re: Slaughter in Syria

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:04 pm
by _Icarus
subgenius wrote:Yes, reading for comprehension is something you should try on as well. The OP clearly speaks to the broader issue which is irrelevant of ABC eventually realizing they were reporting garbage...its the undeniable fact that it got reported to begin with...and such a low-bar for media performance is perfectly acceptable for you, but its consequence should not be.

Just look at Icarus's post wherein the poster sez "so what?" and then goes on to list other example of low-bar performance new reporting...as if the OP was giving any new agency a pass....in fact, if one bothers to read....

They weren't "reporting garbage." There is fighting in Syria and hundreds of people are dying. The video footage seems irrelevant to those facts.

I didn't list just low bar reporting, I demonstrated that those who bend over backwards to find any sliver of fault in mainstream media are typically those who will gladly spend hours watching what they believe to be fair and balanced news coverage which has a long track record of literally manipulating video footage to fit their preferred narrative. The so called "Left" has to run a perfect, squeaky clean, zero-fault media campaign or else any slip, however minor, will be used to dismiss, not only the outlet responsible, but rather the entire media complex itself to provide justification for Trump's insidious and paranoid ranting about how the media, which is sanctioned by the U.S. Constitution, is actually the "enemy of the people."

What FOX does regularly isn't what happened with the ABC goof. There was no attempt to conjure up a non-existent war with this footage. The war exists, and people are dying. I strongly suspect, given the origin of the video, that someone in Right Wing media pitched this to ABC hoping they'd take the bait and it worked. Now it gives FOX and other Right Wing outlets an excuse to run with this headline instead of covering the dozen or so scandals involving Trump this month.

Re: Slaughter in Syria

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:36 pm
by _Doctor Steuss
ABC probably used this wrong clip because all of the other actual clips were way too mild, and wouldn’t illicit an emotion response. Like the dead body of Hevrin Khalaf being kicked, or the video of several civilians being executed by the SRA.

Nice try, ABC. Our emotions remain unmoved by your silly fake video.

Re: Slaughter in Syria

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:10 pm
by _subgenius
Icarus wrote:...an excuse to run with this headline instead of covering the dozen or so scandals involving Trump this month.

if only the OP had mentioned something like this...thanks!