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Warren drops out

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:56 pm
by _Icarus
It will be interesting to see how this helps Bernie

Re: Warren drops out

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:28 pm
by _Some Schmo
This will make my daughter happy. Yesterday she was calling Warren a selfish bitch for staying in.

I don't know where she gets it from.

Re: Warren drops out

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:55 pm
by _Dr. Shades
Some Schmo wrote: Yesterday she was calling Warren a selfish ____ for staying in.

How would Warren staying in have equated to selfishness?

Re: Warren drops out

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:34 am
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Because Biden was savvy enough to get Pete and Amy out before Super Tuesday, thus securing the Center’s votes while Warren pulled votes away from The Bern. Bernie could’ve arguably picked up six more states with her out of the race, which he really needed since Bloomsberg was most likely pulling votes away from Biden.

So. Now that Blooms is out, Bernie is really behind the power curve and will most likely lose the primaries due to a perceived lack of momentum. He really, really needed Super Tuesday to go his way.

Smart moves by the Biden campaign; tip o’ the cap to them.

- Doc

Re: Warren drops out

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:52 am
by _Some Schmo
Dr. Shades wrote:
Some Schmo wrote: Yesterday she was calling Warren a selfish ____ for staying in.

How would Warren staying in have equated to selfishness?

The idea that Warren is splitting the progressive wing of the party to no end would seem pretty selfish had it continued.

I'm not so sure her voters are as Bernie leaning as people might think, but that's the idea.

Re: Warren drops out

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:01 am
by _Gunnar
I am likewise unsure how much, if any, Warren's dropping out will help Sanders. We can only hope it does. One thing I am sure about, though, is that even if Biden winds up being the nominee, that is still a better choice than Donald J. Trump. If Biden does become the democratic nominee, I suspect that Trump's desperation to find dirt on Biden will ultimately backfire against Trump, and that the disinformation to which he feels he must resort to defeat Biden will likely be seen for what it is by enough people who are both rational and honest to ultimately discredit Trump, more than Biden.

Re: Warren drops out

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:54 pm
by _honorentheos
It's odd to me that people see Sanders being further from what Trump represents than Biden. It's...huh.

Re: Warren drops out

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:01 pm
by _EAllusion
honorentheos wrote:It's odd to me that people see Sanders being further from what Trump represents than Biden. It's...huh.
They each have aspects of what makes Trump negative. It depends on what you choose to focus on. Don't like Trump's seeming senility? That's Biden. Don't like Trump's lieutenants who have sway over an online army to hurl abuse at critics? That's Sanders.

Re: Warren drops out

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:29 pm
by _honorentheos
A bend towards certitude and self-righteousness that feeds a leadership style that places loyalty above working towards good solutions is pretty high on my list of concerning similarities. Online troll armies are more than just cosmetic but they seem to be a consequence of their approach rather than the disturbing feature itself.

Re: Warren drops out

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:02 pm
by _Some Schmo
EAllusion wrote:
honorentheos wrote:It's odd to me that people see Sanders being further from what Trump represents than Biden. It's...huh.
They each have aspects of what makes Trump negative. It depends on what you choose to focus on. Don't like Trump's seeming senility? That's Biden. Don't like Trump's lieutenants who have sway over an online army to hurl abuse at critics? That's Sanders.

I don't see either Biden or Sanders as a traitor to the Constitution, oblivious to advice and data, or glaringly incompetent. These are Trump's most disqualifying negatives.