Use of Melatonin Confirms Trumps Adderall Additction

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Use of Melatonin Confirms Trumps Adderall Additction

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I noted that melatonin was one of the components in the cocktail of drugs, including a recently developed monoclonal antibody to the virus, administered to Trump in an attempt to lessen the severity of his Covid-19 infection. My wife asked me why, out of all the advanced pharmaceuticals available to physicians, they would include an inexpensive over the counter supplement as a first line of defense against Covid-19 for the president of the United States.

Trump's age, obesity, poor diet and sleep habits, as well as his adderall use, put him at high risk for complications from Covid-19 infection. His medical team knows that all of these risk factors are associated with reduced innate immunity, which is the body's first defense against invading microorganisms. The first three of these risk factors are also associated with a deterioration in timing and release of melatonin by the pineal. Most importantly, however, they know that melatonin has been proven protective against amphetamine induced neurotoxicity. https://steemit.com/health/@tspink/the- ... rotoxicity

Adderall is a mixture of salts of two amphetamine enantiomers. Symptoms of chronic use in adults include problems with sleep, excitability, aggressiveness, memory loss, relationship problems, impulsive behavior, financial problems, and even mania, all of which Trump exhibits in spades. But the clincher is his telltale sniffling that is comedy gold for late night cable host supercuts.

In addition to having a calming effect and initiating the sleep cascade through the release of GABA, melatonin is a strong antioxidant that is actively taken up by cells and shuttled to the nucleus, where it helps protect DNA and cell repair machinery. Melatonin also enhances native immunity, which decreases with age and reduction in natural melatonin due to pineal gland calcification.

Since melatonin is a hormone and neurotransmitter produced naturally by the body, it is safe to administer, with no contraindications at reasonable doses. In addition to its neuroprotective effects, benefits in Trump's case include support for his immune system in fighting the virus and melatonin's action as a natural calmative and sleep aid.

I wish Trump a slow recovery in time to fully experience the blue tsunami that he and his toadies in congress so richly deserve.
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Re: Use of Melatonin Confirms Trumps Adderall Additction

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Just because he takes melatonin means he's on Adderall? I take melatonin occasionally and am not taking Adderall. Even so, Trump's pupils were really dilated during the debates and I don't doubt that Adderall use is a possibility, given his behavior.
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The OP did not claim that Trump "takes melatonin". The statement was that his medical team administered melatonin as a component of his initial treatment before he was transferred to Walter Reed. In his abject ignorance, I doubt that Trump had even knew what melatonin was before they gave it to him.

Any number of observers in the news media have noted that many of Trump's behaviors, especially his frequent sniffing while speaking, indicate Adderall abuse. Several other behavioral symptoms of Adderall abuse are mentioned in the OP. Trump fits the profile to a tee.

If you opened the link provided in the OP, you saw that melatonin administration would be a logical and low risk step to take if one encountered a patient with symptoms of amphetamine neurotoxicity (especially if said patient were a known user). Having published a dozen or so papers on melatonin, including one in Nature reporting its identification in humans, I can think of no other reason that it would be administered in Trump's situation.
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I was about to jump on your correlation between melatonin and Adderall, because it is quite possible to take melatonin without taking Adderall, but the key word seems to be 'administered'. A sharp reporter will get some clarity here.
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Melatonin enhances both innate and cellular immunity. It stimulates the production of progenitor cells of granulocytes and macrophages and of NK cells. Production of IL-2, IL-6 and IL-12 is stimulated by melatonin. Increased T-helper production, particularly of CD4+ cells, occurs after melatonin supplementation.Nov 29, 2005

The sleep is a bonus but it's not the only reason they're ministering melatonin.

The president just needs 10 days of lots of rest. It's hard for him to slow down because he's a workaholic.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:30 pm
Melatonin enhances both innate and cellular immunity. It stimulates the production of progenitor cells of granulocytes and macrophages and of North Korea cells. Production of IL-2, IL-6 and IL-12 is stimulated by melatonin. Increased T-helper production, particularly of CD4+ cells, occurs after melatonin supplementation.Nov 29, 2005

The sleep is a bonus but it's not the only reason they're ministering melatonin.

The president just needs 10 days of lots of rest. It's hard for him to slow down because he's a workaholic.
Your comments regarding melatonin's enhancement of innate immunity are well taken. However, use of melatonin specifically for the treatment of COVID-19 must be considered as a potential adjuvant treatment at best. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7102583/

I am not aware of melatonin being widely used (or indeed used at all) in the routine treatment of COVID-19. Melatonin is not mentioned on the Harvard Website for COVID-19 treatments, for example. Melatonin is used to treat amphetamine toxicity.

Finally, the president is not a workaholic. He is an obese, lazy, profoundly ignorant and profoundly dishonest individual who spends most of his work day in the White House watching TV and tweeting. As mentioned in the OP, he has several significant risk factors (over 70 and obese with a notoriously poor diet) for complications due to COVID-19 infection and he would be fortunate indeed to be out of the hospital in as little 10 days.
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"Melatonin is not mentioned on the Harvard Website for COVID-19 treatments,"

An interesting OP, Arc. On this point here, can you do a quick check of DCP-level sites like "National Review" and known quack sites for doctors on the religious right? Need to make sure it's not a fad within right-wing faith circles.
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Arc wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:09 pm
The OP did not claim that Trump "takes melatonin".
Thread title: Use of Melatonin Confirms Trumps Adderall Additction

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Re: Use of Melatonin Confirms Trumps Adderall Addiction

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Gadianton wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:27 pm
"Melatonin is not mentioned on the Harvard Website for COVID-19 treatments,"

An interesting OP, Arc. On this point here, can you do a quick check of DCP-level sites like "National Review" and known quack sites for doctors on the religious right? Need to make sure it's not a fad within right-wing faith circles.
Following your suggestion, I found a holistic medicine website that recommends doses of 30 mg to 50 mg of melatonin for those infected with COVID-19. https://boulderholistic.com/melatonin-w ... -covid-19/

The normal daily or occasional use dose of melatonin nowadays is 3 mg to 5 mg. The claim by the site that the well known antioxidant effects of melatonin were "only recently discovered" is nonsense. Russ Reiter and his colleagues at the University of Texas San Antonio published on the antioxidant effects of melatonin in the late 80s and 90s.

Using Reiter's name as a search term, I found a more recent paper from his lab (2020) on the subject of melatonin and COVID-19. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7242729/
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:10 pm
Arc wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:09 pm
The OP did not claim that Trump "takes melatonin".
Thread title: Use of Melatonin Confirms Trumps Adderall Additction

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The 'use of melatonin' was by the medical team that treated Trump before he was transported to Walter Reed.

I do, however, beg forgiveness for the additional "t" in Addiction in the OP subject line.
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