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Dr. Sunstoned wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:28 am

I own several first generation Colt (model 1873) Peacemakers. These guns are single actions, which means the hammer has to be pulled back before the gun can be fired. The hammer will not fall unless the trigger is depressed. Alec had to have pulled the trigger. I am sure the one Baldwin was using was a replica, but it would function the same.

The Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office released a trove of evidence in the case on Monday, which provided deeper insight into how the tragedy unfolded. Video from the release shows Baldwin rehearsing the scene where he shot Hutchins. The office told The Reload the footage does not include the fatal shot.

However, it does provide critical information on how the negligent discharge likely happened. The video shows Baldwin repeatedly drawing his gun while rehearsing a scene. It shows Baldwin clearly had his finger on the revolver’s trigger as he practiced the draw. In the last take of the video, he can be seen pulling the hammer back and releasing it while he has his finger on the trigger. The hammer clearly falls forward after being released.

As I said back in December, this was always the most likely scenario to explain how the gun fired. On a single-action revolver like the one Baldwin used, the hammer will catch on a series of sears when pulled back. However, depressing the trigger while pulling the hammer back will cause it to bypass those sears. If pulled back far enough before being released while the trigger is depressed, it could cause a live round in the cylinder to fire.

Baldwin has claimed he “didn’t pull the trigger.” However, his description of the shooting makes that hard to believe.

“I cock the gun. I go, ‘Can you see that? Can you see that? Can you see that?’” Baldwin told ABC. “And then I let go of the hammer of the gun, and the gun goes off. I let go of the hammer of the gun, the gun goes off.”

This is not possible without a severe mechanical defect in the gun or, more likely, the trigger being depressed. While it’s possible Baldwin kept his finger off the trigger during the shot, the video strongly suggests it’s unlikely. He had his finger on the trigger in these takes. He probably did during the final shot as well.

Baldwin may believe that, while his finger was on the trigger, he didn’t “pull” it. But it does not take much force to keep the trigger on a single-action revolver depressed enough to drop the sears which would otherwise catch a cocked hammer from engaging. That’s exactly what can be seen at the end of the rehearsal video.

Of course, this is only one part of the equation for what went horribly wrong on that set.

The presence of live ammunition on set, the failure of anyone who handled the gun to properly check whether it was unloaded, and the decision to film a shot with crew in the firing line of a real gun all contributed to the disaster. Multiple people had to fail in their obligation to ensure the production was safe for this to happen. It was never just one person making one mistake.

And complacency, as is often the case with negligent discharges, was at the core of what went wrong.

https://thereload.com/analysis-video-sh ... ehearsals/

Marcus wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:42 pm

I think this answers my question }

This is true you can draw the hammer back fully and if your finger is holding the trigger back the hammer will fall and the gun will fire. There is little travel in a single action trigger so this is very possible. The hammer would have to be drawn back fully for the cylinder to fully index. In fact, holding the trigger while drawing while cocking and releasing the hammer is call "fanning". It is a Hollywood movie stunt. Few in real life do this because it is hard on the guy and you can't really aim.

1. The armorer was allegedly responsible for making sure the weapon had no live rounds. But I think it was Baldwin's own account that it was allegedly the AD who told Baldwin that the gun was cold. That's a SAG safety violation.
2. During questioning by LE Baldwin is heard saying he cocked the gun and it went off.
3. Examination and testing Aug 2023 determined that Baldwin had to have fired the gun.
4. So apparently the FBI broke the gun during their examination and they had to piece it together again with new parts. I wonder how that'll fly from the defense side?