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Alex Jones liable for damages over Sandy Hook shooting claims, judge rules
Court in Connecticut will determine amount conspiracy theorist must pay over claims that school massacre was a hoax


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The conspiracy theorist Alex Jones was found liable on Monday for damages in lawsuits brought by parents of children killed in the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting, over Jones’s claim the massacre was a hoax.

Twenty first-grade children, aged five and six, and six adults were killed in the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012.

The 20-year-old gunman killed his mother before the shooting and killed himself as police arrived at the school.

The shooting was portrayed on Jones’s Infowars show as a hoax involving actors, aimed at increasing gun control. Jones has since acknowledged the shooting did occur.

Families of victims said they have been subjected to harassment and death threats from Jones’s followers because of the hoax conspiracy broadcast on Infowars. They sued Jones and his companies in courts in Connecticut and Texas, for defamation and infliction of emotional distress.

In Connecticut on Monday, Judge Barbara Bellis took the rare step of defaulting the Infowars host in the defamation lawsuits, for his and his companies’ “failure to produce critical material information that the plaintiffs needed to prove their claims”.

The default means the judge found in favor of the parents and will hold a hearing on how much damages Jones should pay.

Lawyers for the parents claimed Jones and his companies, including Infowars and Free Speech Systems, violated court rules by failing to turn over documents, including internal records showing how and if Jones and Infowars profited from talking about the school shooting and other mass shootings.

“Their pattern of defying and ignoring court orders to produce responsive information is well established,” lawyers for the family wrote in a court brief in July.

Jones’s lawyers deny violating court rules on document disclosure and have asked that Bellis be removed from the case, alleging she has not been impartial.

Shortly after the judge’s decision on Monday Jones went on the air.

“These individuals, again, are not allowing me to have a jury trial because they know the things they said I supposedly did didn’t happen,” he said. “They know they don’t have a case for damages. And so the judge is saying you are guilty of damages, now a jury decides how guilty you are. It’s not guilty until proven guilty.”

The hearing on damages, before a jury, is expected to be held next year.

Christopher Mattei, a lawyer for relatives of eight victims who sued Jones in Connecticut, said: “What’s clear from Judge Bellis’s ruling is that Alex Jones and the Jones defendants have engaged in a long, continuous course of misconduct in this case designed to prevent the plaintiffs from getting evidence about Mr Jones’ business and about his motives for publishing lies about them and their families.”

A Texas judge recently issued similar rulings against Jones in three defamation lawsuits, finding Jones liable for damages after defaulting him and his companies for not turning over documents.

Hearings on damages also were ordered.
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Whine away, Alex. All you had to do to have a jury trial on liability was to comply with the discovery rules that everyone else has to follow. The detail is your own damn fault.
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I hope they clean right out the idiot's bank account. The piece of crap doesn't deserve any money for his idiot show.
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I have just one comment.
Chap wrote:
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Court in Connecticut will determine amount conspiracy theorist must pay over claims that school massacre was a hoax
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Was his fatal flaw the notion that he portrayed his opinion as fact and not just opinion?
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:03 am
Was his fatal flaw the notion that he portrayed his opinion as fact and not just opinion?
Jones used a powerful media presence over months and years to systematically and repeatedly denounce parents whose kids had been murdered as liars, and their children. His success can be measured by the large following he attracted, which generated a significant number of death threats directed at the bereaved and those supporting them.

I doubt very much whether he did that because he actually believed it to be the case that the parents and kids were 'crisis actors' paid by a gun control lobby. He did it to make money, and it does not seem that anything else mattered to him. This was not a matter of 'expressing an opinion', but of making money and seeking notoriety in the hope of leveraging that into yet more money. In the process he did immeasurable harm to people whose lives had already been destroyed by what happened to their kids. I hope he ends up bankrupt.

If you have a view on this matter, why don't you have the courage to come right out and state it?
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:03 am
Was his fatal flaw the notion that he portrayed his opinion as fact and not just opinion?
Telling lies is not the same as expressing an opinion. An opinion is only valid if based in fact. Without facts, it's just a lie/fantasy.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:03 am
Was his fatal flaw the notion that he portrayed his opinion as fact and not just opinion?
He has many flaws. He is very much like Trump, an over privileged white man who thinks he can mold reality to his liking by simply pummeling his listeners with repeated lies that are designed to outrage and scare them.
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I'll also point out that there is no equivalent to Alex Jones on the Left. Nowhere. Not even close. Same is true for Tucker Carlson. They're openly and brazenly propagandists for all things Republican and there is no bar too low that they're not willing to crawl under to get their agenda through.

But even if there were equivalents to the Left, you won't see a Democrat President embrace them as harbingers for truth. Trump absolutely loves Alex Jones.
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The GOP platform is all about lies, hypocrisy, and projection. That's what they all can agree on.
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