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KevinSim wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:09 pm

Jersey Girl wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:39 am

Shouldn't? What does that even mean? I saw your similar post in Terrestrial and replied.

Jersey Girl, I guess I'm interested in what reasons there are for not believing in God.

I'm not entirely sure where you are coming from. I've read your question here and in Terrestrial regarding alternatives to the LDS Church. Do you want to leave the church? Are you thinking about it? Do you doubt the existence of God?

Please know I am not trying to pry or judge you. I'm trying to get a read on where you are coming from.

KevinSim wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:15 pm

canpakes wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:48 am

Why should you believe in a particular God, of a particular description crafted by other people?

Well, Canpakes, I'm a Latter-day Saint, so the only qualifications I make about the concept of one god in general (who is in control of everything, and therefore I use the capital 'G'), are that said God is good, loves us, and is willing to answer questions we ask Her/Him about Herself/Himself. What are the reasons for not believing in such a deity?

That sounds like you could end up believing in a number of Gods (capital G).

What are the questions that you’ve asked Her/Him about Herself/Himself, as part of this criteria?

KevinSim wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:27 pm

Chap, in other threads I have described God as whoever is preserving forever those good things that will last forever.

What evidence do you have that someone is preserving forever any good things that will last forever (assuming there are any good things that will last forever)?

Dr. Shades wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:30 am

KevinSim wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:27 pm

Chap, in other threads I have described God as whoever is preserving forever those good things that will last forever.

What evidence do you have that someone is preserving forever any good things that will last forever (assuming there are any good things that will last forever)?

While it might indeed be nice (I only said might ...) if there was someone, or something?, somewhere doing that, I can see no evidence that there is such a person or thing. That would seem to be make it inadvisable to believe that they/it do actually exist.


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Chap wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:18 pm

Dr. Shades wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:30 am

What evidence do you have that someone is preserving forever any good things that will last forever (assuming there are any good things that will last forever)?

While it might indeed by nice (I only said might ...) if there was someone, or something?, somewhere doing that, I can see no evidence that there is such a person or thing. That would seem to be make it inadvisable to believe that they/it do actually exist.

Thanks, but what does KevinSim think?

canpakes wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:33 pm

That sounds like you could end up believing in a number of Gods (capital G).

Mormon media personality, Kwaku El, thinks the original Council of Gods for our quadrant of this galaxy numbered seven: Elohim, Jesus, Satan, Holy Ghost, Joseph Smith, and two other unnamed Gods*.

Perhaps Kevin already has these on his list (with the exception of Satan who was subject to indefinite suspension by the chairman of the incorporated council).


* Perhaps three unnamed Gods, if Joseph Smith was serving as Holy Ghost at that time.

Dr. Shades wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:30 am

KevinSim wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:27 pm

Chap, in other threads I have described God as whoever is preserving forever those good things that will last forever.

What evidence do you have that someone is preserving forever any good things that will last forever (assuming there are any good things that will last forever)?

None. I have no such evidence. And therefore what? Is there something wrong with believing something like that without direct evidence?

Jersey Girl wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:33 pm

KevinSim wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:09 pm

Jersey Girl, I guess I'm interested in what reasons there are for not believing in God.

I'm not entirely sure where you are coming from. I've read your question here and in Terrestrial regarding alternatives to the LDS Church. Do you want to leave the church?

No.

Jersey Girl wrote:Are you thinking about it?

Sometimes. Not seriously.

Jersey Girl wrote:Do you doubt the existence of God?

Yes, but again not seriously. I find that I doubt almost anything anymore. But I have made a conscious decision to believe God exists. I don't see any other belief I can have that is as productive.

Jersey Girl wrote:Please know I am not trying to pry or judge you. I'm trying to get a read on where you are coming from.

Like I said, I can't think of a more productive belief than a belief in God, and I'm testing that hypothesis by asking people for reasons why I shouldn't believe in God.

KevinSim wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 15, 2022 6:11 pm

Dr. Shades wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:30 am

What evidence do you have that someone is preserving forever any good things that will last forever (assuming there are any good things that will last forever)?

… Is there something wrong with believing something like that without direct evidence?

Nope. Lots of people enjoy larping and daydreaming, too.

- Doc

canpakes wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:33 pm

KevinSim wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:15 pm

Well, Canpakes, I'm a Latter-day Saint, so the only qualifications I make about the concept of one god in general (who is in control of everything, and therefore I use the capital 'G'), are that said God is good, loves us, and is willing to answer questions we ask Her/Him about Herself/Himself. What are the reasons for not believing in such a deity?

That sounds like you could end up believing in a number of Gods (capital G).

Absolutely. I've never seen it as wise to limit myself to a deity with too many precisely defined characteristics. Better to let God tell me what the precise characteristics of God are.

canpakes wrote:What are the questions that you’ve asked Her/Him about Herself/Himself, as part of this criteria?

I asked God whether the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is true. Which to me means whether God is using that church to lead me to the truth.