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Thread split from Moral Depravity of Ron Desantis
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:00 pm
by ajax18
Why are you worried about convicted felons not getting to vote? In the view of Merrick Garland and pretty much the entire left most criminals are conservative parents who dare to speak out against boys in skirts in the girls bathroom, critical race theory being taught in taxpayer funded public schoool, or January 6 protesters. The idea that most convicted felons are black people who vote Democrat is just a white supremacist myth, right?
Re: Thread split from Moral Depravity of Ron Desantis
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:02 pm
by Res Ipsa
Thread split UR4
Re: Thread split from Moral Depravity of Ron Desantis
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:57 pm
by Vēritās
ajax18 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:00 pm
Why are you worried about convicted felons not getting to vote?
No, I'm worried about citizens who have already paid their debt to society being singled out by a tyrant who is using them to further his political aspirations by rounding up poor black people. If you fascists on the Right were in any way concerned about liberty or freedom like you pretend to be, you'd be the first people to protest this outrageous act of political cowardice. But you're not interested in freedom for US citizens, you're only interested in retaining power at all costs while using "Freedom" as a bumper sticker slogan.
ajax18 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:00 pm
In the view of Merrick Garland and pretty much the entire left most criminals are conservative parents who dare to speak out against boys in skirts in the girls bathroom, critical race theory being taught in taxpayer funded public schoool, or January 6 protesters.
That's just another one of your idiotic lies you'll refuse to support.
ajax18 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:00 pm
The idea that most convicted felons are black people who vote Democrat is just a white supremacist myth, right?
It is a statistical fact, and hardly surprising given the systemic racism that thrives in the country, making it far more difficult for poor black people to hire attorneys. But that's the way you want to keep it.
Compare the old black lady being hauled off in handcuffs for "voter fraud" that allegedly happened
two years ago, and the Trump family voting illegally in multiple states without so much as a slap on the wrist. Why the discrepancy in treatment? And why is she being arrested now? Because Desantis needs another prop to further his political agenda, and he's more than willing to incarcerate his own citizens if needed. No one in their right mind believes this poor old woman deserves to be hauled off in cuffs for merely voting which should be her constitutional right.
This is just another example of many in which republicans try to subvert the will of the people and undermine our democracy by making it more difficult for people to vote, particularly minorities. Because they know the jig is up, and they have no chance in hell of ever convincing the majority of minorities that voting Republican is ever going to be in their best interests.
Re: Thread split from Moral Depravity of Ron Desantis
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:18 am
by ajax18
No, I'm worried about citizens who have already paid their debt to society
But they haven't paid their debt yet. When they pay their fines and fees, they can vote again. That would've course mean that they would have to get a job. At which point you probably wouldn't want them to vote because people who work tend to vote Republican.
Re: Thread split from Moral Depravity of Ron Desantis
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:54 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
65% of Florida voters approved Amendment 4, which automatically restores the voting rights of people convicted of a felony—except murder or sexual offenses—after the completion of their sentences. Next time I see a “We the People” flag flying off the back end of a truck I’ll remember the only “people” Trumpers care to have representation is them. 65%.
- Doc
Re: Thread split from Moral Depravity of Ron Desantis
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:13 pm
by Vēritās
ajax18 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:18 am
But they haven't paid their debt yet. When they pay their fines and fees, they can vote again.
They paid their debt to society according to the courts that sentenced them. The "fines" were later stipulation on voting that were added by Republicans as a means to negate minority votes and to further intimidate them for future elections. The idea is to remind the black people what and where their place is in modern day Jim Crow Florida, and now these same people are unlikely ever to vote again because the state of Florida under Republican rule cannot be trusted. They trick them into thinking they can vote only to arrest them when they do.
At which point you probably wouldn't want them to vote because people who work tend to vote Republican.
Another idiotic remark that flies in the face of reality. Most people working multiple jobs vote Democrat. You're so damned detached from real American society you think all poor people are jobless.
This is what the age of Trump has given us. A return to Jim Crow days where black people are harassed, arrested and even murdered in broad daylight for no valid reason other than the fact that the country is full of Right Wing racists.