Judge Rules Trump Committed Crime

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Judge Rules Trump Committed Crime

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Trump Committed 'Another Crime' by Filing False Court Documents: Kirschner
The committee subpoenaed Trump at the end of the hearing to provide relevant documents and testimony under oath as part of the committee's investigation of his involvement in the January 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol riot. Included in the testimony might be four emails from Trump's attorney, John Eastman, after a federal judge ruled that Trump signed a court document with voter fraud claims he knew to be fake, subjecting himself to perjury and potential other charges.

Eastman has previously declined to turn over the emails, citing attorney-client privilege, but Judge David Carter's ruling means four emails must be turned over because they included evidence of a "likely crime," according to Politico.
Donald Trump, a.k.a. the GOP's Criminal in Chief, has responded the way he always has and how millions of other toddlers around the world would by name calling and attacking the judge.

If Trump were black and/or poor he'd already be indicted for perjury, but such is life as a rich white guy in America.

Trump and Eastman fought tooth and nail to keep those emails private, and now we know why. Because the emails prove Trump knew what was false and he signed off on horsecrap anyway, which is illegal.

https://youtu.be/YdbaGQLvObY?t=22
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If there were true justice, this guy would spend the rest of his wretched life in prison. He is total excrement.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:55 am
If there were true justice, this guy would spend the rest of his wretched life in prison. He is total excrement.
If there were true justice, he would be shot and pissed on, and not in that order.

Unless it were Russian prostitutes doing the pissing. Then the order is fine. No point sending him off happy.
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Could Trump be held in contempt of court?
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Moksha wrote:
Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:40 pm
Could Trump be held in contempt of court?
Doubtful, although it depends on the law of the jurisdiction where the case was filed. I’m not sure that a judge has the power to reopen a dismissed case to bring contempt charges.

Lying under oath is usually handled by prosecution for perjury. The penalties for perjury are more severe than those for criminal contempt, and both give the defendant the same constitutional protections (e.g., right to jury trial).
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Vēritās wrote:
Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:36 am
Trump Committed 'Another Crime' by Filing False Court Documents: Kirschner
The committee subpoenaed Trump at the end of the hearing to provide relevant documents and testimony under oath as part of the committee's investigation of his involvement in the January 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol riot. Included in the testimony might be four emails from Trump's attorney, John Eastman, after a federal judge ruled that Trump signed a court document with voter fraud claims he knew to be fake, subjecting himself to perjury and potential other charges.

Eastman has previously declined to turn over the emails, citing attorney-client privilege, but Judge David Carter's ruling means four emails must be turned over because they included evidence of a "likely crime," according to Politico.
Donald Trump, a.k.a. the GOP's Criminal in Chief, has responded the way he always has and how millions of other toddlers around the world would by name calling and attacking the judge.

If Trump were black and/or poor he'd already be indicted for perjury, but such is life as a rich white guy in America.

Trump and Eastman fought tooth and nail to keep those emails private, and now we know why. Because the emails prove Trump knew what was false and he signed off on horsecrap anyway, which is illegal.

https://youtu.be/YdbaGQLvObY?t=22
This is one of those technical areas of law that are easily misconstrued. The judge ruled that the e-mails fell within the crime-fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege. That doesn’t mean he found that Trump broke the law. In fact, if the e-Mail had talked about past crimes, it would be protected by the privilege. The judge found that the e-mails were evidence of a plan to commit a future crime or fraud or the furtherance of an ongoing crime or fraud that qualifies as falling into the exception.

The judge couldn’t find that a crime was committed because such a finding is not an element of the exception. The e-mails are also only pieces of evidence — not the totality of evidence that would be asserted at a trial.

If Trump were charged with perjury, the government couldn’t introduce this judges ruling as evidence.
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