Re: Will the Republic as we know it end?
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:59 am
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ajax18 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:29 amPerhaps it's a communist style democracy where you're free to vote for the communist party candidate or not vote. What's odd about this line of attack is that it's conservatives who defend the form of government laid down in the Constitution. It's liberals who disparage the founding fathers as racist slaveowners in their effort to see the Constitution discarded and overturned. That's the fundamental transformation of America they're talking about.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:20 am
You’re probably the most retarded adult I’ve ever seen post on the Internet.
- Doc
ajax18 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:29 amPerhaps it's a communist style democracy where you're free to vote for the communist party candidate or not vote. What's odd about this line of attack is that it's conservatives who defend the form of government laid down in the Constitution. It's liberals who disparage the founding fathers as racist slaveowners in their effort to see the Constitution discarded and overturned. That's the fundamental transformation of America they're talking about.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:20 am
You’re probably the most retarded adult I’ve ever seen post on the Internet.
- Doc
Fortunately for a select few the Davidic Servant is a known entity that may soon stand.ajax18 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:54 pmThe issue for most voters is and should be what the economic results of a Democrat controlled House, Senate, and presidency are right now. You have to win the battle before we argue about which deity to credit it to. Right now America is losing on inflation, the stock market, the economy, COVID policy, school closures, oil/gasoline prices, energy independence, the southern border, inner city crime/defund the police, America's international sphere of influence/Russia, disabled candidates, like Biden and Fetterman, and on it goes. If you want more of what you've gotten in the past two years, by all means vote a straight democratic ticket.
Like it or not, ajax, there is practically zero credible evidence that the 2020 election was illegally rigged or stolen from Trump. Even Trump's own appointed election officials and judges have admitted that! On the other hand, there is more than adequate evidence that Republican elected officials are doing their darnedest to suppress voting and purge the voting roles of any, especially non-whites and other minorities, who are not likely to vote Republican. They hardly even try to hide that fact! Some of them have even been heard to openly, proudly and gleefully admit it, at least to their fellow Republicans! Thus we can be sure that when Republicans accuse Democrats of trying to cheat and rig elections in their favor, it is nothing but pure projection!ajax18 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:54 pmThe issue for most voters is and should be what the economic results of a Democrat controlled House, Senate, and presidency are right now. You have to win the battle before we argue about which deity to credit it to. Right now America is losing on inflation, the stock market, the economy, COVID policy, school closures, oil/gasoline prices, energy independence, the southern border, inner city crime/defund the police, America's international sphere of influence/Russia, disabled candidates, like Biden and Fetterman, and on it goes. If you want more of what you've gotten in the past two years, by all means vote a straight democratic ticket.
ajax18 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:29 amPerhaps it's a communist style democracy where you're free to vote for the communist party candidate or not vote. What's odd about this line of attack is that it's conservatives who defend the form of government laid down in the Constitution. It's liberals who disparage the founding fathers as racist slaveowners in their effort to see the Constitution discarded and overturned. That's the fundamental transformation of America they're talking about.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:20 am
You’re probably the most retarded adult I’ve ever seen post on the Internet.
- Doc
Ironic. Xanax blathers on about saving the Constitution while supporting an insurrection and the attempted Republican election theft. He blathers on about communists while being a literal fascist. He blathers on and on and on while having literally zero factual understanding about the very thing he’s blathering on about. This [FR1 -cp-] would hand this country over to Putin before seeing a Democrat in office. He’s an impenetrable fortress of stupidity and doggedly determined ignorance. It’d be kind of amazing if it weren’t existentially threatening to our democracy.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:24 pmXanax is a fascist and doesn't believe in a democracy unless it's a one-party system and you're a party member. He betrays himself over and over again with regard to reading this board and its exchanges - ie, he doesn't. He just does a quick skim and craps out some nonsense because today he's feeling particularly cagey about his crap life. Funny how the Party of Personal Responsibility always ends up blaming others for their own misery.
Yep. You just described every member of the MAGA cult. He is emblematic of the idiocy that is racist sentiment. You thought Scientology was retarded; they've got nothing on the thought void that is the MAGA cult.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:09 amIronic. Xanax blathers on about saving the Constitution while supporting an insurrection and the attempted Republican election theft. He blathers on about communists while being a literal fascist. He blathers on and on and on while having literally zero factual understanding about the very thing he’s blathering on about. This [FR1 -cp-] would hand this country over to Putin before seeing a Democrat in office. He’s an impenetrable fortress of stupidity and doggedly determined ignorance. It’d be kind of amazing if it weren’t existentially threatening to our democracy.
Thank you for posting this video, Dean Robbers. I was not aware of Peter Z. Perhaps I need to watch more of his videos.Gadianton wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:48 pmThank you for the thoughtful opening post, Kishkumen. I hadn't heard that take on Constantine, though I think about Constantine's affirmation of an underdog religion. Not that I know that much about it, of course.
Anyway, curious what you and others think about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfSv9DGtv6Y
I'm a sorta fan of Peter Z's since I've discovered him at the beginning of the war. I do think he's a loose canon at times, but what I credit him for is identifying important issues. He provides great starting points.
In this short segment, he bashes Obama and blames Obama for Trump. Is he right or wrong?
I never cared one way or another about Obama, didn't think he was good or bad, but I don't follow politics; mainly this board, and I hone in on certain issues as necessary. I think the case he makes here is an interesting one, but I also think he has a track record of glossing over ideas that are pretty good. And I wonder how many presidents really have had the large org background to be "managers" -- Biden obviously does. Reagan? Bush 1/2?
On its face, his formulation is making a lot of huge leaps. I agree that Obama was somewhat disappointing on a number of fronts. His stimulus package was too small. He was a pretty poor negotiator, and he did not do political communication with people in Congress, his cabinet, etc., behind the scenes.The disconnect between Obama and the government is directly responsible for the disenchantment a lot of Americans feel with government in general and that led directly to the rise of the next guy.