Harris 2024

[ceeboo]

On a few other threads, there seems to be a lot of questioning in and around potential support for Trump in the upcoming election. In addition, there seems to be a significant amount of concern for such a vote.

What I haven't seen (And I have asked but have not received any responses) is what about Harris? What are the reasons you are voting Harris? Do you have any concerns? Do you know what her policies are - if so, what do you like?

Lastly, I was also wondering this (I asked but did not receive any responses) - What is your take on the Presidential nominee, Harris, being the nominee without having received a single vote from the American citizens?

The floor is yours.

[Some Schmo]

I like Harris because she's everything Trump isn't: competent, smart, rational, calm, serious, and has the genuine ability to laugh. I like how she tracks to the center on a whole range of policies, like guns, the economy, immigration, and our military. She is pro-freedom. She's patriotic and isn't afraid to show it; she actually loves this country, and doesn't denigrate it with every comment like Trump does.

The primary reason to vote for Harris (as opposed to against Trump) is her stance on women's rights and protections. I do not want to live in an 19th century hellhole where women are self-aborting with coat hangers and caregivers are letting women die out of fear of prison for saving women's lives. I'm what pro-life should commonly mean, not the bastardized idea promoted by people wanting control of strangers. It's pro-freedom.

And as far as I'm concerned, she received the same 81 million votes that Biden got. Given Biden's age, people had to know she may have to step in at some point, as is the VP's job. She's also received numerous votes when she ran for DA and for the senate, in both of which she excelled. Not only that, but she wasn't anointed; she still had to win over the party's delegates, which she did very quickly. It seems most of the country had an appetite for someone other than Biden or Trump.

For people who are genuinely interested in Harris's policy positions, they can visit here.

[ceeboo]

I like Harris because she's everything Trump isn't: competent, smart, rational, calm, serious, and has the genuine ability to laugh. I like how she tracks to the center on a whole range of policies, like guns, the economy, immigration, and our military. She is pro-freedom. She's patriotic and isn't afraid to show it; she actually loves this country, and doesn't denigrate it with every comment like Trump does.

The primary reason to vote for Harris (as opposed to against Trump) is her stance on women's rights and protections. I do not want to live in an 19th century hellhole where women are self-aborting with coat hangers and caregivers are letting women die out of fear of prison for saving women's lives. I'm what pro-life should commonly mean, not the bastardized idea promoted by people wanting control of strangers. It's pro-freedom.

And as far as I'm concerned, she received the same 81 million votes that Biden got. Given Biden's age, people had to know she may have to step in at some point, as is the VP's job. She's also received numerous votes when she ran for DA and for the senate, in both of which she excelled. Not only that, but she wasn't anointed; she still had to win over the party's delegates, which she did very quickly. It seems most of the country had an appetite for someone other than Biden or Trump.

For people who are genuinely interested in Harris's policy positions, they can visit here.

Thanks for answering SS - Appreciated.

[Manetho]

Lastly, I was also wondering this (I asked but did not receive any responses) - What is your take on the Presidential nominee, Harris, being the nominee without having received a single vote from the American citizens?

Until the 1970s, presidential nominees were chosen by insiders within each party. While we don't look back that that and consider it an ideal situation, neither do we see it as a fundamental affront to democracy. Harris is in a similar position as the presidential nominees of decades past, except that, as vice-president, she was already voted on by the American people to succeed President Biden if he were dead or incapable of performing his duties as president. If Biden had died in June, rather than having a fumbling debate performance, Harris would already be president. Nobody would consider her illegitimate because she hadn't been voted into that position.

Moreover, Republicans sometimes call the choice of Harris a "coup", as an I-am-rubber-you-are-glue response to the accusation that January 6 was an attempted coup by Trump. This is legally false. No law limits who the Democratic Party can select as a nominee except Constitutional eligibility requirements, which Harris meets, and Harris was selected according to the party's own internal rules, which depend on delegates rather than primary voters. Moreover, in 2020, Americans voted against Trump by a margin of 7 million votes and 74 electors. They explicitly considered him for president and rejected him. Installing Trump on January 6 would have been a violation of the express will of the American people. In contrast, while primary voters in 2024 voted for Biden and not Harris, nobody ever voted against Harris as a presidential nominee.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

What is your take on the Presidential nominee, Harris, being the nominee without having received a single vote from the American citizens?

Wait, are you suggesting delegates didn’t cast their votes to nominate Harris?

[Moksha]

Harris, being the nominee without having received a single vote from the American citizens?

Ceeboo, Harris was elected Vice President of the United States in 2020 by the largest vote ever.

Question about Harris - Will she maintain our American democracy and the continuity of civil rights in the US? Will she enter side businesses like shoe sales, and bitcoins, and be pals with dictators worldwide?

[ceeboo]

Lastly, I was also wondering this (I asked but did not receive any responses) - What is your take on the Presidential nominee, Harris, being the nominee without having received a single vote from the American citizens?

Until the 1970s, presidential nominees were chosen by insiders within each party. While we don't look back that that and consider it an ideal situation, neither do we see it as a fundamental affront to democracy. Harris is in a similar position as the presidential nominees of decades past, except that, as vice-president, she was already voted on by the American people to succeed President Biden if he were dead or incapable of performing his duties as president. If Biden had died in June, rather than having a fumbling debate performance, Harris would already be president. Nobody would consider her illegitimate because she hadn't been voted into that position.

Moreover, Republicans sometimes call the choice of Harris a "coup", as an I-am-rubber-you-are-glue response to the accusation that January 6 was an attempted coup by Trump. This is legally false. No law limits who the Democratic Party can select as a nominee except Constitutional eligibility requirements, which Harris meets, and the Harris was selected according to the party's own internal rules, which depend on delegates rather than primary voters. Moreover, in 2020, Americans voted against Trump by a margin of 7 million votes and 74 electors. They explicitly considered him for president and rejected him. Installing Trump on January 6 would have been a violation of the express will of the American people. In contrast, while primary voters in 2024 voted for Biden and not Harris, nobody ever voted against Harris as a presidential nominee.

Thanks, Manetho.

I didn't know that this was how nominees were selected prior to 1970, and your comments about the role of a VP taking over under certain circumstances surrounding a sitting President is very helpful as it relates to my question about Harris being the nominee.

[Some Schmo]

Another thing that I don't think should be overlooked is how hard Harris works. That lady has been kicking ass since the day Biden dropped out. Prepared, sharp, on point.

Contrast that with the laziest sloth ever elected. MAGA seems to be mad Kamala actually prepared for the debate, so much so, they want to blame the moderators for Trump being ill-prepared (not to mention blaming moderators for correcting obvious lies. States are executing babies? People are eating pets? Is this guy off his meds?) They can't admit that the sociopath thought he could wing it and produced the most mock-worthy debate performance in the history of these debates.

I want a President that likes to work, not a douche who sets records for most golf days during his term.

[Moksha]

Forget that Kamalala, I want to have my followers purchase this genuine Trump Commemorative Trophy signed on the bottom with my signature. You can get this beauty for only $499.95.

[Gunnar]

On a few other threads, there seems to be a lot of questioning in and around potential support for Trump in the upcoming election. In addition, there seems to be a significant amount of concern for such a vote.

What I haven't seen (And I have asked but have not received any responses) is what about Harris? What are the reasons you are voting Harris? Do you have any concerns? Do you know what her policies are - if so, what do you like?

Lastly, I was also wondering this (I asked but did not receive any responses) - What is your take on the Presidential nominee, Harris, being the nominee without having received a single vote from the American citizens?

The floor is yours.

Schmo, Manetho, Moksha, et al have given you excellent, well thought out and documented answers to your question, for which you justly and graciously thanked them. I admire you for that!

We all have some questions for you. What are Trump's major accomplishments, other than giving a massive tax break to the ultra-wealthy, who obviously neither needed nor deserved any such break, thereby adding more to the national deficit than any other President in history?

Do you realize that Trump dismantled Obama's comprehensive pandemic response team and plan that would almost certainly have mitigated the seriousness of the Covid pandemic, just as it apparently successfully nipped in bud the potential for a dreaded Ebola outbreak during his administration? In contrast, our nation, with less than 5% of the world's population suffered nearly a quarter of all the deaths from covid--more than the combined total of all the recorded deaths from the world's two most populous countries, with a combined total of 8 times the U.S. population! Arguably, few, if any, nations of the world handled the pandemic worse than our nation did, under the Trump Administration!

Do you deny Trump's obvious misogyny and demonstrated disrespect for women? Do you really believe he is innocent of the claims of having assaulted them? Do you deny his narcissism and pathological dishonesty? Do you deny that he is an unrepentant adulterer who cheated on all three of his wives?

I am at a complete loss to see any redeeming qualities about Trump!