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Anti-Incumbent Election?
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:18 pm
by Kishkumen
What is the evidence that this really was an anti-incumbent election? How many incumbents were actually booted out of office? I am ready for the facts, to be told that this is indeed what happened, but I am not satisfied thus far that Democrats can excuse their loss on this basis.
Re: Anti-Incumbent Election?
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:47 pm
by Res Ipsa
I think the evidence comes from the other western democracies, where the party in power during that worldwide inflation spike was voted out of office. I think in the US, We tend to hold the President primarily responsible for the state of the economy.
It’s an interesting theory, but I think we’re still reading entrails at this point.
Re: Anti-Incumbent Election?
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:32 pm
by Dwight
I think it is too early to tell, but I have seen anecdotal expressions that there seems to be some apathy or votes for Trump that were based on this. I am gobsmacked.
Re: Anti-Incumbent Election?
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:29 pm
by drumdude
From what little I've read on the subject (including before this election) anti-incumbent sentiment is typically a powerful force in any election where people are feeling squeezed financially. Inflation did Biden/Kamala zero favors.
Re: Anti-Incumbent Election?
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:23 pm
by Kishkumen
Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:47 pm
I think the evidence comes from the other western democracies, where the party in power during that worldwide inflation spike was voted out of office. I think in the US, We tend to hold the President primarily responsible for the state of the economy.
It’s an interesting theory, but I think we’re still reading entrails at this point.
Thanks. Pod Save the World made the same point about western democracies. I was looking for evidence of a pattern in the US. I agree with you about entrails.
Re: Anti-Incumbent Election?
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:26 pm
by Kishkumen
Dwight wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:32 pm
I think it is too early to tell, but I have seen anecdotal expressions that there seems to be some apathy or votes for Trump that were based on this. I am gobsmacked.
Thanks, Dwight. I am unsympathetic to any reasons for Trump votes, but I still am interested to know what they are.
Re: Anti-Incumbent Election?
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:28 pm
by Kishkumen
drumdude wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:29 pm
From what little I've read on the subject (including before this election) anti-incumbent sentiment is typically a powerful force in any election where people are feeling squeezed financially. Inflation did Biden/Kamala zero favors.
Yep. Another reason why I have diminishing sympathy for voters. Democrats brought down inflation faster than any other western country, and voters are angry with them. More proof that numbers are too difficult for people.
Re: Anti-Incumbent Election?
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:33 am
by Moksha
I think it came from both Murphy's Law of the Perversity of the Universe and a bit of Cosmic Karma for having done bad deeds in other countries.
Re: Anti-Incumbent Election?
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:35 am
by Some Schmo
Kishkumen wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:28 pm
Yep. Another reason why I have diminishing sympathy for voters.
I have no sympathy for Trump voters. I am counting on them suffering under Trump's kleptocratic rule. They asked for it. I want them to beg for it like anyone who enjoys being
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Re: Anti-Incumbent Election?
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:39 am
by Some Schmo
It occurs to me: America has made me into a misanthrope. I don't like people anymore. Most of them are too stupid to associate with. Animals are where it's at. They are no where near as stupid as humans.