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I'm doing my damnedest to ignore Trump. Of course he's corrupt. Of course he's incompetent. Of course he's stupid. All of that is well-documented, and I'm now at the point where I'm unwilling the give the needy child the attention he craves so badly he's willing to misbehave to get it. I don't get anything out of thinking about him. It's bad for me. And honestly, it's not about him anymore.

It's the very fact that his infinite inadequacies are so well-documented that our problems aren't really about the moron becoming President (he's a symptom... simpleton, not the disease), but more what it says about the American voting public. Just the fact that Nazism is making a comeback is exposing the ugly underbelly of American stupidity and ignorance.

I keep hearing these stories of Trump voters immediately being screwed over by their own vote, and while the schadenfreude may be satisfactory, it still leaves a large measure of despair over the quality of the electorate. Some of the excuses I'm hearing for their vote are ridiculous and unforgivable, given, as I said, how well-documented Trump's general malevolence is.

You hear people crying over their healthcare being threatened, shocked to find out that the ACA and Obamacare are the same thing. How do you even respond to that?

Trump wants to get rid of public education, because he loves stupid, just like the rest of the GOP. That's one of the few places he and his party are aligned. He wants more people to be easily scammed. The majority of voters aren't enough. He wants everyone to be as dumb as he is, and millions of idiots and assholes are trying to help him get it done.

So if you're one of those people who voted for him, and are currently suffering the consequences, your whining only sounds like music to the "we told you so" crowd. I mean, this was all predicted before the election. If you are being abandoned by family members or friends creating boundaries with you for their own protection (because you can't be trusted to make informed decisions), you can't be surprised by that. It's not anyone else's fault you couldn't bother to inform yourself before pulling the lever.

I will admit a guilty pleasure, however, when I see some self-described rightwing "influencer" (who is obnoxiously smug while making uninformed comments) suddenly screwed by one of Trump's executive orders. There are a bunch on my YouTube feed these days.

I realize these are just a handful and most Trump voters likely still think they made the right choice. They will delude themselves until they are personally screwed and have the minimal intelligence it takes to acknowledge who did it to them.

The American public is in a sad and scary place right now. There's an inverse relationship between how technologically advanced we become and the average intelligence of those using it.

I agree with almost all of this. The most striking thing to me is the cowardice of Americans and their politicians. South Korea just had their president attempt a coup with their military, and they had politicians livestreaming themselves breaking into their own legislature, regular citizens not being intimidated for a moment by soldiers with guns standing in their way. In France, they were going to slightly increase the standard work week, and cities were on fire in hours. But Americans seem content to simply take the worst forms of abuse from their government, wipe their mouths and ask for more.

The South Korean president attempted a coup at a specific moment in time, swift enough to galvanize an immediate outrage and response.

Trump has been slowly turning up the temperature for over a decade. There will be no “crossing the rubicon” moment. Just a slow, slow erosion of our country as we knew it.

I can understand wanting to tune out. But that seems to be playing very well into his plan.

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Some Schmo wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:54 pm

I'm doing my damnedest to ignore Trump. Of course he's corrupt. Of course he's incompetent. Of course he's stupid. All of that is well-documented, and I'm now at the point where I'm unwilling the give the needy child the attention he craves so badly he's willing to misbehave to get it. I don't get anything out of thinking about him. It's bad for me. And honestly, it's not about him anymore.

It's the very fact that his infinite inadequacies are so well-documented that our problems aren't really about the moron becoming President (he's a symptom... simpleton, not the disease), but more what it says about the American voting public. Just the fact that Nazism is making a comeback is exposing the ugly underbelly of American stupidity and ignorance.

I keep hearing these stories of Trump voters immediately being screwed over by their own vote, and while the schadenfreude may be satisfactory, it still leaves a large measure of despair over the quality of the electorate. Some of the excuses I'm hearing for their vote are ridiculous and unforgivable, given, as I said, how well-documented Trump's general malevolence is.

You hear people crying over their healthcare being threatened, shocked to find out that the ACA and Obamacare are the same thing. How do you even respond to that?

Trump wants to get rid of public education, because he loves stupid, just like the rest of the GOP. That's one of the few places he and his party are aligned. He wants more people to be easily scammed. The majority of voters aren't enough. He wants everyone to be as dumb as he is, and millions of idiots and assholes are trying to help him get it done.

So if you're one of those people who voted for him, and are currently suffering the consequences, your whining only sounds like music to the "we told you so" crowd. I mean, this was all predicted before the election. If you are being abandoned by family members or friends creating boundaries with you for their own protection (because you can't be trusted to make informed decisions), you can't be surprised by that. It's not anyone else's fault you couldn't bother to inform yourself before pulling the lever.

I will admit a guilty pleasure, however, when I see some self-described rightwing "influencer" (who is obnoxiously smug while making uninformed comments) suddenly screwed by one of Trump's executive orders. There are a bunch on my YouTube feed these days.

I realize these are just a handful and most Trump voters likely still think they made the right choice. They will delude themselves until they are personally screwed and have the minimal intelligence it takes to acknowledge who did it to them.

The American public is in a sad and scary place right now. There's an inverse relationship between how technologically advanced we become and the average intelligence of those using it.

You and I so often see things the same way and considering that our worldviews differ, that's pretty interesting. We must just evaluate similarly and draw the same conclusions. When you express "It's bad for me" this is what I said not long ago in an exchange with ajax whose post surprised me.

Jersey Girl wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:36 am

ajax18 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:44 am

"Conservative board members" That actually sounds polite and civil. I almost got roped into a politics quagmire at church. I would never have picked this good brother to be a MAGA hater. I thought I knew who was safe to talk politics with at church. I should have just nodded my head but his comment was so misinformed I mistakenly thought he was joking. When it became clear he wasn't I darn near had a heated argument before EQ meeting..
But I did stop myself and tried to smooth it over when in a past life I'd have relished the argument and taken it upon myself to straighten him out. I took down my Trump bumper sticker after the election. Trump will not be a political prisoner and no longer needs my support. I need a detox from politics as well.

This is one of the wisest and most sincere posts I've ever seen from you, ajax. I checked out on politics probably right after the election. Not because I felt satisfied with the outcome and Trump coming back for a second term as you probably did, but because I finally realized how toxic it all is for me.

See how it affected your interaction at church? That should never happen in a place of worship where we are meant to come together in a spirit of fellowship. I'm convinced that it's not good for our soul and it's difficult to strike a balance when it's everywhere we look online, our phones, and in our neighborhoods for that matter unless you make an intentional effort to break free from it which is what I did.

I do see headlines, but rarely read the articles. I've unsubscribed from all politically related youtube channels. I've kept only what I refer to as "my lovely youtube ladies" channels. I hope you'll give yourself a chance to detox, too.

Philippians 4:8

The whole thing is toxic and to follow Trump's every move is simply a giant soul rot for no good reason. At least half the time he's simply setting fires for attention, his stupid claims eventually fall flat on their face. Yeah sure, we're taking over Greenland and Canada, and we're going to to build a new "beautiful" resort on the Gaza strip and make the Arabs or whoever they are take the Gaza Folk. Get outta here.

Destroy this agency, that department, force people off the job. My A$$. And apparently their a$$ too because guess what they're not going. Some of them are suing the hell out of Trump and/or the government.

When he decided to go off like a fire hose of chaos making (drawing attention away from himself and Co-President Musk to whom he is beholden and now has no other choice but to kneel to, he forgot to figure something into the equation. He forgot about all of US, the people. We hold more power than he'll ever has had or will have in his whole entire life. Unless of course he wants to call out the military to gun citizens down on the street, and keep relying on the military until he overspends that budget and any other budgets as well as the economy (Oh yeah the big guy has tariffs!--financial moron that he is.) that he's screwing into the ground not to mention American farmers that he's screwed over with the water supply in CA and gov't contracts held by USAID and then what will he do...file for bankruptcy?

He's a one-man catastrophic landslide.

So yeah, I don't disagree that many Americans are simply asleep at the wheel or the education, and don't have the initiative to fact check and won't have the initiative until his bs directly affects them and then they'll be crying out for someone to help them because apparently they don't know how to help themselves.

Do they even teach Civics in high school or college any more? Some of us are so stinking helpless when pushing buttons on a device isn't the solution.

Now I will admit and I have freely admitted on this board that I didn't know enough about the inner workings and mechanisms of federal government. But to my credit I have made a strong effort to understand and do better.

The way I see it at the moment (because I recently tuned back in for a brief stint) is that the Democrats are hopping all over the place while the Republicans are sitting on their hands. I don't even know how they fill the seats of Congress without actual spines to hold them upright.

Still and all, I think the answer is US. People refusing to leave the work place, people suing, people demonstrating in numbers that "no one has ever seen before". There's demonstrations planned and upcoming. Here's one I picked up off the Tube.

He’s Not My President Protest Feb.17th@ 12:00 @ every State Capital and City Hall. RESIST! Save America

Okay I am shutting up for the moment. It really doesn't do much good to follow the bottomless pit of needs that is our sitting president or the Co-President who stands and towers over him at his side, who we all know has overpowered the rube who thinks he's a stable genius.

The only (cognitive) Gulf of America is sitting behind the Resolute Desk.

p.s. I unsubscribed to all politics related youtube channels after the election. Gunnar posted a link recently that I watched and now they're coming up in my feed again. I think you must be watching the crybaby Trump is screwing me over (!) videos that I have seen...Meidas Touch, Luke Beasley, Adam Mockler, The Bulwark, etc. I haven't really watched but one or two of those but I do see the thumbnails coming up in the feed. But yeah, your feed must resemble my own in that regard.

And when the stock market was rising and inflation was coming down, under Biden's administration, leaving Trump an improving economy and a decreasing unemployment rate, that had somehow nothing to do with Biden, but due to Trump, who was not in power at the time. Now that inflation is growing and projected to grow even faster now that Trump is in charge, the stock market is dropping and relations between us and other nations (especially our allies) are rapidly deteriorating, that is somehow Biden's fault, who is no longer in power, and it has nothing to do with Trump and his administration who now are in power. Does anyone fail to see how utterly stupid it is of Trump to make such claims?

Trump Mocked After Blaming Bad Inflation Report On Biden

How can his supporters still fail to see how utterly mendacious, corrupt, incompetent, abysmally ignorant and incompetent he really is? It is mind boggling! It is as stupid as insisting it is midnight while staring directly at the sun at high noon on a cloudless, midsummer day!

Jersey Girl wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:25 pm

The whole thing is toxic and to follow Trump's every move is simply a giant soul rot for no good reason. At least half the time he's simply setting fires for attention, his stupid claims eventually fall flat on their face. Yeah sure, we're taking over Greenland and Canada, and we're going to to build a new "beautiful" resort on the Gaza strip and make the Arabs or whoever they are take the Gaza Folk. Get outta here.

Destroy this agency, that department, force people off the job. My A$$. And apparently their a$$ too because guess what they're not going. Some of them are suing the hell out of Trump and/or the government.

When he decided to go off like a fire hose of chaos making (drawing attention away from himself and Co-President Musk to whom he is beholden and now has no other choice but to kneel to, he forgot to figure something into the equation. He forgot about all of US, the people. We hold more power than he'll ever has had or will have in his whole entire life. Unless of course he wants to call out the military to gun citizens down on the street, and keep relying on the military until he overspends that budget and any other budgets as well as the economy (Oh yeah the big guy has tariffs!--financial moron that he is.) that he's screwing into the ground not to mention American farmers that he's screwed over with the water supply in CA and gov't contracts held by USAID and then what will he do...file for bankruptcy?

He's a one-man catastrophic landslide.

So yeah, I don't disagree that many Americans are simply asleep at the wheel or the education, and don't have the initiative to fact check and won't have the initiative until his bs directly affects them and then they'll be crying out for someone to help them because apparently they don't know how to help themselves.

Do they even teach Civics in high school or college any more? Some of us are so stinking helpless when pushing buttons on a device isn't the solution.

Now I will admit and I have freely admitted on this board that I didn't know enough about the inner workings and mechanisms of federal government. But to my credit I have made a strong effort to understand and do better.

The way I see it at the moment (because I recently tuned back in for a brief stint) is that the Democrats are hopping all over the place while the Republicans are sitting on their hands. I don't even know how they fill the seats of Congress without actual spines to hold them upright.

Still and all, I think the answer is US. People refusing to leave the work place, people suing, people demonstrating in numbers that "no one has ever seen before". There's demonstrations planned and upcoming. Here's one I picked up off the Tube.

He’s Not My President Protest Feb.17th@ 12:00 @ every State Capital and City Hall. RESIST! Save America

Okay I am shutting up for the moment. It really doesn't do much good to follow the bottomless pit of needs that is our sitting president or the Co-President who stands and towers over him at his side, who we all know has overpowered the rube who thinks he's a stable genius.

The only (cognitive) Gulf of America is sitting behind the Resolute Desk.

Excellently thought out and written post! I particularly liked that last sentence that I bolded and italicized. I thought it both clever and apt! I wish I had thought of it first!

Gunnar wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:59 am

And when the stock market was rising and inflation was coming down, under Biden's administration, leaving Trump an improving economy and a decreasing unemployment rate, that had somehow nothing to do with Biden, but due to Trump, who was not in power at the time. Now that inflation is growing and projected to grow even faster now that Trump is in charge, the stock market is dropping and relations between us and other nations (especially our allies) are rapidly deteriorating, that is somehow Biden's fault, who is no longer in power, and it has nothing to do with Trump and his administration who now are in power. Does anyone fail to see how utterly stupid it is of Trump to make such claims?

Ceeboo and about 270 million fellow ‘mericans. Apparently.

How can his supporters still fail to see how utterly mendacious, corrupt, incompetent, abysmally ignorant and incompetent he really is? It is mind boggling! It is as stupid as insisting it is midnight while staring directly at the sun at high noon on a cloudless, midsummer day!

Because they are also utterly mendacious, and/or corrupt, and/or incompetent, and/or abysmally ignorant, and/or incompetent.

Where are the likes of ceeboo now? He’s gone strangely silent, along with all the other idiots that voted for the orange money grubber in chief.

Gunnar wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:52 am

Jersey Girl wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:25 pm

The whole thing is toxic and to follow Trump's every move is simply a giant soul rot for no good reason. At least half the time he's simply setting fires for attention, his stupid claims eventually fall flat on their face. Yeah sure, we're taking over Greenland and Canada, and we're going to to build a new "beautiful" resort on the Gaza strip and make the Arabs or whoever they are take the Gaza Folk. Get outta here.

Destroy this agency, that department, force people off the job. My A$$. And apparently their a$$ too because guess what they're not going. Some of them are suing the hell out of Trump and/or the government.

When he decided to go off like a fire hose of chaos making (drawing attention away from himself and Co-President Musk to whom he is beholden and now has no other choice but to kneel to, he forgot to figure something into the equation. He forgot about all of US, the people. We hold more power than he'll ever has had or will have in his whole entire life. Unless of course he wants to call out the military to gun citizens down on the street, and keep relying on the military until he overspends that budget and any other budgets as well as the economy (Oh yeah the big guy has tariffs!--financial moron that he is.) that he's screwing into the ground not to mention American farmers that he's screwed over with the water supply in CA and gov't contracts held by USAID and then what will he do...file for bankruptcy?

He's a one-man catastrophic landslide.

So yeah, I don't disagree that many Americans are simply asleep at the wheel or the education, and don't have the initiative to fact check and won't have the initiative until his bs directly affects them and then they'll be crying out for someone to help them because apparently they don't know how to help themselves.

Do they even teach Civics in high school or college any more? Some of us are so stinking helpless when pushing buttons on a device isn't the solution.

Now I will admit and I have freely admitted on this board that I didn't know enough about the inner workings and mechanisms of federal government. But to my credit I have made a strong effort to understand and do better.

The way I see it at the moment (because I recently tuned back in for a brief stint) is that the Democrats are hopping all over the place while the Republicans are sitting on their hands. I don't even know how they fill the seats of Congress without actual spines to hold them upright.

Still and all, I think the answer is US. People refusing to leave the work place, people suing, people demonstrating in numbers that "no one has ever seen before". There's demonstrations planned and upcoming. Here's one I picked up off the Tube.

He’s Not My President Protest Feb.17th@ 12:00 @ every State Capital and City Hall. RESIST! Save America

Okay I am shutting up for the moment. It really doesn't do much good to follow the bottomless pit of needs that is our sitting president or the Co-President who stands and towers over him at his side, who we all know has overpowered the rube who thinks he's a stable genius.

The only (cognitive) Gulf of America is sitting behind the Resolute Desk.

Excellently thought out and written post! I particularly liked that last sentence that I bolded and italicized. I thought it both clever and apt! I wish I had thought of it first!

Gunnar I hate to tell you that I didn't think out that post at all. I picked up the computer and cut loose. I'm not even close to joking. Looking back through my post I see where I made edits and in my haste, failed to reconstruct complete sentences! Thanks for your compliments but I honestly don't deserve it since I was only shooting from the hip the whole entire time.

I know...cognitive Gulf of America. It just came out of my head! I've got a lot of stuff stuffed up in there. Sometimes I let it out. It's like the release valve on a pressure cooker.

I Have Questions wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:00 am

Where are the likes of ceeboo now? He’s gone strangely silent, along with all the other idiots that voted for the orange money grubber in chief.

I wouldn't mind hearing from Ceeboo just now. I don't see how anyone can really justify this jazz or spazz as the case may be.