Why Critical Thinking is Dying

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Why Critical Thinking is Dying

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The Stupidity Epidemic: Why Critical Thinking is Dying
Stupidity isn’t just a lack of intelligence—it’s the refusal to think critically, and it’s everywhere. In this video, we dive into The Stupidity Epidemic, exploring why people ignore facts, how social media fuels misinformation, and why Dietrich Bonhoeffer believed stupidity is more dangerous than evil. From blind groupthink to misplaced confidence, we break down how ignorance spreads, why it thrives in positions of power, and what we can do about it. If you've ever wondered why smart people make bad decisions—or why the loudest voices are often the least informed—this video is for you. Let’s talk about it.
This is a very enlightening video that everyone ought to watch and learn from. It is only 11 minutes and 53 seconds long.

Tragically, though, as pointed out by one of the commentators is that
No stupid person watching this will ever realise you're talking about them.

The most terrifying thing about growing up was realising how stupid most people are, and looking back at myself and realising how stupid I was, especially those times when I thought I was clever. Only time will tell how much of an idiot I am right now.
Hopefully, all of us watching this will be willing to honestly consider the possibility that even our most cherished and longest held biases may have led us to stupid conclusions and to always check our gut feelings against credible and verifiable objective facts and reason.
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Why MAGA Can't Hold Trump Accountable
It should be, at this point, one of the great riddles of our time—how a man like Donald Trump, buried under the weight of criminal indictments, corruption, and power-grabbing schemes, still commands the unshakable loyalty of millions. One might think that after the second impeachment, or the first criminal charge, or the first time he openly tried to overturn an election, at least some portion of his base would blink, hesitate, reflect. But no. They did not budge.

Instead, his supporters doubled down, dug in, and made his legal troubles their own. Every new revelation of corruption became a new hill to die on, every abuse of power was rationalized, every criticism cast aside as a partisan hit job from an ever-growing list of enemies—Democrats, the deep state, the media, the globalists, the "RINOs." The question, then, is not why Trump is corrupt (we have enough evidence for a lifetime), but why they refuse to see it.

And the answer, if you really look at it, is as psychological as it is political.

The Cult of Victimhood: A Nation Under Siege

At the core of Trumpism is not just loyalty—it is identity. It is the belief that they are the last true Americans, standing against an oppressive liberal elite determined to erase them. In their minds, they are the ones under attack.

Psychologists call this collective narcissism—when a group believes it is uniquely special yet unfairly persecuted. MAGA has weaponized this to perfection. Every single criticism of Trump, no matter how valid, is heard as an attack on them personally (Golec de Zavala 2024). The liberals don’t just hate Trump, they hate you. They don’t just want accountability, they want revenge.

It’s a perfect psychological trap. The more Trump is criticized, the more his followers cling to him, the more they see him as the lone warrior standing between them and obliteration. What should be evidence against him only fuels their loyalty.

And the irony? This is exactly how cults work.

History Repeats Itself: When Strongmen Get a Free Pass

For anyone who thinks this is a new phenomenon—don’t flatter yourself. This has played out before.

Richard Nixon’s Watergate scandal? His supporters defended him to the bitter end, insisting it was a liberal conspiracy, that he was the real victim, until the tapes came out and even the most hardened loyalists had to look away (Hofstadter 2008/2011).

Ronald Reagan’s Iran-Contra affair? His administration illegally funded right-wing militias, bypassing Congress. Clear-cut corruption. But his supporters? They justified it as a necessary evil to fight communism (Hetherington and Weiler 2009).

Even abroad, Viktor Orbán’s followers in Hungary dismiss accusations of authoritarianism as liberal fear-mongering, even as he erodes democracy before their eyes (Golec de Zavala 2024).

Loyalty to a strongman is never about truth. It is about power, belonging, and fear of losing status. And MAGA has all three.

The GOP’s Favorite Tactic: Projection

It would be almost funny if it weren’t so predictable. If you want to know what MAGA is doing, just listen to what they accuse Democrats of doing.

Trump tries to overturn an election → MAGA screams "Biden stole the election!"

The GOP pushes book bans and speech restrictions → MAGA rants about liberal "censorship"

Trump stacks the courts with loyalists who undermine democracy → MAGA warns about Democratic authoritarianism

It’s a well-worn psychological trick called projection—accusing others of the very things you are guilty of (Nyhan and Reifler 2010). It keeps the base angry, deflects blame, and ensures that no matter what Trump does, the Democrats must always be worse.

And the terrifying thing? It works. Every single time.

Trump’s Government Overreach: The Hypocrisy They Can’t See

MAGA claims to hate big government. They rant endlessly about the deep state, about federal agencies being too powerful, about government needing to be “run like a business.”

And yet—when Trump guts federal agencies, when he consolidates power, when he hires loyalists who pledge allegiance to him over the Constitution—they cheer.

Why?

Because they don’t actually want small government. They want government that punishes the people they don’t like (Hetherington and Weiler 2009). As long as liberals, immigrants, journalists, and political enemies are suffering, government overreach isn’t just excusable—it’s desirable.

They don’t see Trump’s power grab as authoritarianism—they see it as revenge.

Why MAGA Will Never Accept the Facts

At some point, you’d think reality would set in. Surely, some of them have to see the fraud, the lies, the abuse, the clear authoritarian rhetoric.

But they won’t.

Because at this stage, accepting the truth is no longer an option.

Psychologists call it motivated reasoning—the brain’s way of warping reality to fit what we already believe. When people are deeply invested in a worldview, they will ignore facts, reject corrections, and even double down on their beliefs when confronted with evidence that contradicts them (Nyhan and Reifler 2010).

And for MAGA, the cost of admitting they were wrong is simply too high.

To admit Trump is corrupt is to admit they were lied to.
To admit Trump lost fairly is to admit they wasted years fighting a delusion.
To admit Trump was a fraud is to admit they were conned.

And that’s the real reason they won’t turn on him. Because the alternative—to accept the reality that they were deceived—is a level of psychological pain most people simply cannot bear.

So they will lie to themselves instead.

And Trump, as he always has, will exploit that to the very end.

Conclusion: The Fortress of MAGA’s Loyalty

In the end, the inability of Trump supporters to hold him accountable isn’t political ignorance or mere stubbornness—it is a psychological necessity.

They see themselves as a persecuted group, so every attack on Trump only strengthens their devotion.
They are conditioned to reject information that contradicts their beliefs, no matter how compelling.
They are locked into a cycle of projection, blaming Democrats for their own party’s failures.
They do not actually oppose government overreach, they just want it aimed at their enemies.
And above all—they cannot afford to be wrong.

Trump is not a man to them anymore. He is a symbol—a shield, a last stand, a promise that they will not fade into irrelevance.

And no matter how many scandals come out, no matter how many crimes he commits, no matter how many times reality tries to break through—

That shield will always be more comforting than the truth.

References

Golec de Zavala, Agnieszka. 2024. Authoritarians and “Revolutionaries in Reverse”: Why Collective Narcissism Threatens Democracy.

Hetherington, Marc J., and Jonathan D. Weiler. 2009. Authoritarianism and Polarization in American Politics.

Hofstadter, Richard. 2008/2011. The Paranoid Style in American Politics, and Other Essays.

Jost, John T., et al. 2003. Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition.

Nyhan, Brendan, and Jason Reifler. 2010. When Corrections Fail: The Persistence of Political Misperceptions.
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Thanks for posting this, Gunnar! Both the video and the article are well worth everyone's time. I recall saying that Trumpism was a kind of mass mental illness, and I think "collective narcissism" may be the diagnosis I was waiting for. Our present predicament is dire indeed, since those who are backing Trump are highly motivated to continue doing so, not because of his strengths as a leader and policymaker, but because they see the only other option as a kind of annihilation of their identity. I recall that one of my relatives once said to me, "I will vote for Trump because he is the last chance of having one of our people in the presidency." That was back in 2015. Clearly identity has been a big part of the issue for many Trumpers.
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I agree that more critical thinking is a good thing and it isn't just for MAGA. It should be for the enlightened posters here as well. Most of the posts here moaning about MAGA seem to violate a lot of logical fallacies, eg, assuming that one comment from one MAGA person online is representative of the whole.

https://utminers.utep.edu/omwilliamson/ ... lacies.htm

Trump is not trustworthy but that doesn't automatically mean that those in charge of the so-called resistance are wearing white hats. I don't think that has resonated with the "smart" posters here. Perhaps quit pointing fingers and look inward? Both parties were part of the corona virus bill, biggest transfer of wealth upward in US history. Both want to spend us into oblivion through war and both shockingly are ordered around by a certain country in the middle east. Trump isn't for free speech when it comes to that country but neither are the democrats who tried to outlaw free speech during the last 4 years.

Maybe use those critical thinking skills to look inward instead of constantly othering. If a MAGA supporter is blindly following Trump like some here seemingly blindly disagree with whatever Trump does because of the mountain of Hitler messaging we've experienced, they should be pitied and not condemned to death or otherwise.
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:20 pm
the democrats who tried to outlaw free speech during the last 4 years.
Which democrats did what, and when, in the attempt to "outlaw free speech?"
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Chap wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:11 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:20 pm
the democrats who tried to outlaw free speech during the last 4 years.
Which democrats did what, and when, in the attempt to "outlaw free speech?"
Look up the Twitter files. Look up how the head of Facebook admitted to being screamed at and bullied into compliance by the Biden administration to censor unwanted posts. Look up how social media companies were hauled before congress on the issue of allowing unwanted speech on their platforms. Revisit the idea that you championed about having the idiot media fact check the unwashed masses. That is part of it. However, I wonder if you realize what's going on over here when you probably ardently support the nebulous and ambiguous "hate" speech laws your country loves. Perhaps read something else besides the Guardian. You might realize the slippery slope your country is on and the problems here and in the rest of Europe regarding free speech. Defining and legislating against speech the crown doesn't like doesn't change the problem.
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:32 pm
Chap wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:11 pm
Which democrats did what, and when, in the attempt to "outlaw free speech?"
Look up the Twitter files. Look up how the head of Facebook admitted to being screamed at and bullied into compliance by the Biden administration to censor unwanted posts.
Then look up how screaming and cursing does not and cannot “outlaw free speech”, and is - as quite a few folks might argue - how some people express their own free speech right.

Then look up how Zuck didn’t care anyway. He plainly admits that such claimed behavior didn’t change his mind about whatever the Biden Administration was pointing at.

Then look up how the Trump Administration did exactly the same thing.

"It was strange to me when all of these investigations were announced because it was all about the exact same stuff that we had done [when Donald Trump was in office]," one former top aide to a senior Trump administration official tells Rolling Stone. "It was normal."

In interviews with former Twitter personnel, onetime Trump administration officials, and other people familiar with the matter, each source recalled what could be described as a "hotline," "tipline," or large Twitter "database" of moderation and removal requests that was frequently pinged by the offices of powerful Democrats.

The voluminous requests often came from high-ranking political appointees working in different departments, offices, and agencies in the Trump administration. But during both the Trump and Biden presidencies, these types of moderation requests or demands were routinely sent to Twitter by the staff of influential GOP lawmakers - ones with names like Kevin McCarthy and Elise Stefanik.


https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/ho ... -SD010.pdf
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:29 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:32 pm
Look up the Twitter files. Look up how the head of Facebook admitted to being screamed at and bullied into compliance by the Biden administration to censor unwanted posts.
Then look up how screaming and cursing does not and cannot “outlaw free speech”, and is - as quite a few folks might argue - how some people express their own free speech right.

Then look up how Zuck didn’t care anyway. He plainly admits that such claimed behavior didn’t change his mind about whatever the Biden Administration was pointing at.

Then look up how the Trump Administration did exactly the same thing.

"It was strange to me when all of these investigations were announced because it was all about the exact same stuff that we had done [when Donald Trump was in office]," one former top aide to a senior Trump administration official tells Rolling Stone. "It was normal."

In interviews with former Twitter personnel, onetime Trump administration officials, and other people familiar with the matter, each source recalled what could be described as a "hotline," "tipline," or large Twitter "database" of moderation and removal requests that was frequently pinged by the offices of powerful Democrats.

The voluminous requests often came from high-ranking political appointees working in different departments, offices, and agencies in the Trump administration. But during both the Trump and Biden presidencies, these types of moderation requests or demands were routinely sent to Twitter by the staff of influential GOP lawmakers - ones with names like Kevin McCarthy and Elise Stefanik.


https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/ho ... -SD010.pdf
If you can read, read what I said (as if that matters to one of our resident TDR specialists ... Trump bad therefore democrats holy) about the Trump administration and their bs deportation of the Columbia student for protesting our true leader, that small country in the middle east that just might have been running a concentration camp and now a slaughter of innocents. Its a problem with both parties. BOTH PARTIES.

Perhaps take a look at the above video in the opening post and apply. Hint: just because someone points out where one political party is wrong doesn't mean that that person believes that the opposing party is somehow righteous and holy, like you seem to be doing over and over and over again.

Now back the partisan BS ....
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:09 am
Hint: just because someone points out where one political party is wrong doesn't mean that that person believes that the opposing party is somehow righteous and holy, …
Maybe. But maybe sometimes that person has definitely swallowed some serious BS over the years regarding a few topics while fighting a bit too energetically against evidence of having done so … and while pointing with both hands at everyone else.
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:20 pm
I agree that more critical thinking is a good thing and it isn't just for MAGA. It should be for the enlightened posters here as well. Most of the posts here moaning about MAGA seem to violate a lot of logical fallacies . . .
What does violating logical fallacies mean exactly? Did you mean to say they commit logical fallacies?

Just because someone here quotes a Trumpster as anecdotal evidence casually does not mean they view that as a substitute for a preponderance of the evidence.
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