Uneven application of the rule of law

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Uneven application of the rule of law

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How many of these top administration officials will end up being investigated and prosecuted for activity that had I engaged in when I had a TS/SCI clearance would have landed me in Leavenworth --- transmission of NSI over unapproved networks.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ns/682151/
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Hey if it's good enough for Putin to go clear text it's good enough for MAGA.
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Here you go! The man himself...

‘Unbelievable’: Jeffrey Goldberg speaks out after Trump officials accidentally texted him war plans

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“To see this administration claiming that it cares about competence and merit and then be responsible for an epic screwup like this demonstrates that these are not serious people,” ~ Pete Buttigieg
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 12:46 pm
“To see this administration claiming that it cares about competence and merit and then be responsible for an epic screwup like this demonstrates that these are not serious people,” ~ Pete Buttigieg
I was suspicious that this was not an entirely accurate quote, so I watched the source video.

He did, indeed, call it an epic “F” up. If he hadn't already, Pete just lost Shades with that "low-level language."
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Some Schmo wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:08 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 12:46 pm
“To see this administration claiming that it cares about competence and merit and then be responsible for an epic screwup like this demonstrates that these are not serious people,” ~ Pete Buttigieg
I was suspicious that this was not an entirely accurate quote, so I watched the source video.

He did, indeed, call it an epic “F” up. If he hadn't already, Pete just lost Shades with that "low-level language."
I saw it first on Brian Tyler Cohen's channel last night. I don't know if Pete has his own channel or if it came from a social media account he has.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:09 pm
I saw it first on Brian Tyler Cohen's channel last night. I don't know if Pete has his own channel or if it came from a social media account he has.
That's where I saw it too.

If we ever have an election again, I like Pete's chances.
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"If Goldberg's characterization of the military plans he was exposed to is correct, what relevant classified information handlings, and communication retention laws would be violated by the participants of the Signal group communications: Waltz, Gabbard, et al?"
If Jeffrey Goldberg’s characterization of the military plans he was exposed to is accurate, and if members of a Signal group including figures like Waltz and Gabbard discussed classified military plans, several U.S. laws and regulations concerning classified information handling and communication retention could be implicated. Here are some key legal frameworks that might be relevant:

1. Handling of Classified Information
Espionage Act (18 U.S.C. § 793-798)

If any participant willfully transmitted, retained, or disclosed national defense information without authorization, they could be in violation of the Espionage Act.

If the information was shared in a manner that could be considered gross negligence (e.g., discussing sensitive plans on an unapproved platform like Signal), this could be prosecutable.

Executive Order 13526 (Classified National Security Information)

Classified military plans are typically marked at a high security level (e.g., SECRET or TOP SECRET).

The order mandates that classified information must only be stored and transmitted on approved, secure government systems.

Use of Signal, unless approved for classified communication, would be a clear violation.

2. Federal Records Act (44 U.S.C. Chapter 31)
Federal officials and military personnel must retain records of official government business.

If the Signal conversations involved official military planning or policy discussions, those messages should have been preserved as federal records. Deleting or failing to archive them could be a violation.

3. Presidential and Federal Records Acts Amendments of 2014
This law strengthened transparency requirements, mandating that government officials using non-governmental electronic messaging services (like Signal) must copy or forward messages to an official system within 20 days.

4. Improper Use of Personal Electronic Devices for Government Business
Department of Defense (DoD) Policies on Secure Communications

DoD regulations prohibit discussing classified plans on unauthorized platforms.

Secure systems such as SIPRNet (for SECRET-level) and JWICS (for TOP SECRET-level) exist for such communications.

Potential Legal Consequences
If military personnel or government officials participated in this Signal group and shared classified military plans, they could face criminal charges, loss of security clearance, or administrative penalties.

If Waltz, Gabbard, or others involved were still holding active security clearances, they might face sanctions under the Insider Threat Program.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:29 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:09 pm
I saw it first on Brian Tyler Cohen's channel last night. I don't know if Pete has his own channel or if it came from a social media account he has.
That's where I saw it too.

If we ever have an election again, I like Pete's chances.
Me too! He's got so many great qualities. Well educated, military experience, goverment experience, great combination of empathetic and non-nonsense approaches, the ability to refer to events, facts, figures in detail. I've never seen anyone try to fact check him and find him at fault or so much as throw him off balance. Sharp as a tack that one is!

I saw a comment online (not sure where it came from) that Pete decided against running for the Senate in order to gear up for a 2028 Presidential run. One can only hope!
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