Defining Progressivism

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Defining Progressivism

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Alright Gunnar, this is your opportunity to articulate what progressivism truly means, I initiated this thread specifically for you.

However, there is a catch. In this thread, I will outline my perspective on what progressivism represents and identify the true leaders of the progressive movement. And that's where I'll begin, with identifying the true leaders of the progressive movement.

I recently inquired of A.I. about the leaders of the progressive movement, and it informed me that Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are prominent figures in this movement due to the impactful rallies they are organizing together. Do you concur with that evaluation?

Who do you view as the leaders of the progressive movement? If you believe that Bernie and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are among the leading figures in the progressive movement, do you also think that they both identify as socialists?

Gunnar, There are undoubtedly various movements present within the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. Is this image representative of a movement associated with progressivism?

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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:24 am
[...] In this thread, I will outline my perspective on what progressivism represents. [...]
Please tell us clearly what you understand the content of this ideology you call 'progressivism' is.
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Re: Defining Progressivism

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Gunnar, do you genuinely think that the statement "To beat Fascism we need Socialism" will resonate with the American youth vote in upcoming elections? This movement is indeed a part of the progressive movement, right?
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Re: Defining Progressivism

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Chap wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:51 am
Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:24 am
[...] In this thread, I will outline my perspective on what progressivism represents. [...]
Please tell us clearly what you understand the content of this ideology you call 'progressivism' is.
First, let's figure out who are the leaders of the progressive movement in 2025.

What's your answer?
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Re: Defining Progressivism

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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:54 am
Chap wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:51 am
Please tell us clearly what you understand the content of this ideology you call 'progressivism' is.
First, let's figure out who are the leaders of the progressive movement in 2025.

What's your answer?
I think that you have this process backwards.

If someone calls Trump ‘fascist’, as example, I’d want to know what actions are driving the conclusion.

As to ‘progressivism’, for example, being ‘pro choice’ wouldn’t make any one person ‘progressive’, even if you’d probably try to make that connection.

Progressive is today often just another label used by conservatives to describe things that they don’t like. There’s a reason why it’s deployed that way. Are you arguing against something that you can’t or won’t define?
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canpakes wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 11:34 am
Progressive is today often just another label used by conservatives to describe things that they don’t like. There’s a reason why it’s deployed that way. Are you arguing against something that you can’t or won’t define?
Yeah, you have to be impressed with a guy who, after spending thread after thread running down "Progressivism," asks A.I. who the leaders of the Progressive Movement are. What a dumb effer.
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You have yet to definie Progressivism. Also, have you noticed the Democrat party has gone out of its way to deny Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez any positions of influence within the party, despite it being alleged to have been hijacked by such individuals? Interesting the only people that seem to make such accusations are kind of dumb? Maybe you should ask your A.I. why conservatives such as yourself seem to lack a base level of intelligence and curiosity about the world around them?
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Kish wrote:Yeah, you have to be impressed with a guy who, after spending thread after thread running down "Progressivism," asks A.I. who the leaders of the Progressive Movement are. What a dumb effer.
I haven't read the OP, but if he asked who the leaders are to answer the question what progressivism is, then I note that he's continuing his agenda of full circularity without revealing a single thing about what his beliefs actually are (beliefs outside of Trump idolatry that we can get from 3 other participants on this board). It's in part my fault, after boycotting a previous thread because he wouldn't break the circle, it would be akin to Trump lowering a tariff or Putin ending the war for him to do any substance at all.
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Re: Defining Progressivism

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Gunnar, I kindly request your patience as I take the next 10 to 20 pages of this thread to carefully outline modern day progressivism and explain why I believe it is detrimental to the Democrat party.

I will share links to articles and videos featuring white individuals, black individuals, gay individuals, transgender individuals, liberals, and conservatives. Each will contribute to defining modern day progressivism and will discuss why progressivism may not aid the Democratic Party in securing future electoral victories.

I ask for your patience because as I begin to present my evidence regarding progressivism's detrimental impact on the Democrat party, individuals like Molok, Canpakes, Schmo, and Kishkumen are likely to react with strong disapproval, criticizing the evidence, attacking me, and rejecting anything I offer that does not align with their favorable view of progressivism.

As they label me and complain about my posts, you will begin to notice a recurring theme among the board progressives, a theme of animosity and contempt for anyone or anything they perceive as a threat to the integrity of their progressive ideology.

This is set to be an enjoyable experience, so get ready. Canpakes might have a bit of a meltdown, but let's hope that doesn't happen. Perhaps we should pray for the well being of Canpakes as this thread continues to gather evidence and clarify the extremism present within the ideology known as progressivism.
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Re: Defining Progressivism

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Gadianton wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 1:57 pm
...then I note that he's continuing his agenda of full circularity without revealing a single thing about what his beliefs actually are (beliefs outside of Trump idolatry that we can get from 3 other participants on this board).
That's the thing. He's revealed what he believes while lying about what motivates him the entire time.

It's like he's trying an experiment: can he convince people he's a Democrat while being a complete Trump cultist?

The answer is a solid obviously not. The only people he can fool with that crap are other Trump cultists.
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