healing/recovery through venting?

[_Runtu]

I am not sure yet that it doesn't have something to do with your being sure about your loss of faith. That is why I asked the follow-up questions that you deleted from this post.

But, I am trying to find out for certain one way or another. You hold the answers to that $64,000 question in your own brain. To get to out of your brain and onto the table will require you directly answering my questions. I suspect it is not just one thing, but an amalgam.

What I want to be sure of first, is that you understand that: 1) anger can often be a counterproductive emotion, and when it is, it is in everyones interest to appropriately stop it and/or prevent it; 2) the anger you experienced may have been a counterproductive emotion (including in ways that you may not have considered); 3) the cause of your anger was cognitions; 4) there is a difference between the cognitions you had, and those in others who haven't been angered by the presumed complexity of leaving the Church or even the complexity of staying in the Church--whether there has been a paradigm shift or not? 5) the cognitions that led to your anger in dealing with the complexity of leaving the church, may also cause you to react counterproductively in anger in other situation of varied complexity. Do you understand this? Do you agree?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Wade, I've already said this at least three times: I may not have handled things particularly well. I definitely got angrier than I should have. I've already said so.

[_Yoda]

Wade, I've already said this at least three times: I may not have handled things particularly well. I definitely got angrier than I should have. I've already said so.

In other words, Wade, for the sake of argument, he agrees.

Get on with it!

[_desert_vulture]

Rodney King had it right. "Can't we all just get along goddamit"

[_harmony]

Rodney King had it right. "Can't we all just get along goddamit"

Psst, DV... that avatar is much better than the last one you had.

[_wenglund]

I am not sure yet that it doesn't have something to do with your being sure about your loss of faith. That is why I asked the follow-up questions that you deleted from this post.

But, I am trying to find out for certain one way or another. You hold the answers to that $64,000 question in your own brain. To get to out of your brain and onto the table will require you directly answering my questions. I suspect it is not just one thing, but an amalgam.

What I want to be sure of first, is that you understand that: 1) anger can often be a counterproductive emotion, and when it is, it is in everyones interest to appropriately stop it and/or prevent it; 2) the anger you experienced may have been a counterproductive emotion (including in ways that you may not have considered); 3) the cause of your anger was cognitions; 4) there is a difference between the cognitions you had, and those in others who haven't been angered by the presumed complexity of leaving the Church or even the complexity of staying in the Church--whether there has been a paradigm shift or not? 5) the cognitions that led to your anger in dealing with the complexity of leaving the church, may also cause you to react counterproductively in anger in other situation of varied complexity. Do you understand this? Do you agree?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Wade, I've already said this at least three times: I may not have handled things particularly well. I definitely got angrier than I should have. I've already said so.

Should I take this as an unqualified "yes", you do understand each of those things, and yes, you do agree?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Sam Harris]

Rodney King had it right. "Can't we all just get along goddamit"

Did he say that before or after they beat him? I can't remember.

[_wenglund]

Rodney King had it right. "Can't we all just get along goddamit"

Did he say that before or after they beat him? I can't remember.

I suspect it was a few years after King was arrested for beating his wife; and a few years after he was arrested for "assault with a deadly weapon, second-degree robbery, and intent to commit great bodily injury"; and it was not long after King took the police on a 110 -115 mph chase through L.A. and resisted arrest (which is when the beatings occured).

However, I think it was said months before he was spotted having sex with a prostitute, and sped away nearly hittting a police officer. It was a year or so before "King's second wife reported to police that King had hit her and she feared for her life." and the following month he "was arrested at 1:40 A.M. for driving while intoxicated". The follwoing year "King crashed into a wall near a downtown Los Angeles nightclub. He had a blood alcohol level of 0.19" Two years later: "King was arrested for DUI while on a trip to Pennsylvania." Two months after that, "King got into an argument with his wife while he was driving, pulled off the freeway and ordered her out of the car. When she started to get out, King sped off, leaving her on the highway with a bruised arm. King was charged with assault with a deadly weapon (his car), reckless driving, spousal abuse, and hit-and-run." in 1999, "King allegedly injured the sixteen-year-old girl that he had fathered out of wedlock when he was seventeen, as well as the girl's mother. King was arrested for injuring the woman, the girl, and for vandalizing property." (See: Kings Arrest Record.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Who Knows]

When did Joseph Smith become prophet?

It was a few years after being arrested for treasure digging. But a few years before marrying teenage girls, and other mens wives.

This is a fun game.

[_Sam Harris]

When did Wade become our board therapist?

It seems it was just a short time after being banned from board after board, and ignoring his own smelly behavior. He then decided that in order to not focus on himself and any (and every) thing he needed to improve upon within himself, he needed to try to be everyone else's emotional savior.

Yes, we could go on and on..this could definitely get fun. It's been an irritating week for me. I could indulge...

[_Mister Scratch]

Rodney King had it right. "Can't we all just get along goddamit"

Did he say that before or after they beat him? I can't remember.

I suspect it was a few years after King was arrested for beating his wife; and a few years after he was arrested for "assault with a deadly weapon, second-degree robbery, and intent to commit great bodily injury"; and it was not long after King took the police on a 110 -115 mph chase through L.A. and resisted arrest (which is when the beatings occured).

However, I think it was said months before he was spotted having sex with a prostitute, and sped away nearly hittting a police officer. It was a year or so before "King's second wife reported to police that King had hit her and she feared for her life." and the following month he "was arrested at 1:40 A.M. for driving while intoxicated". The follwoing year "King crashed into a wall near a downtown Los Angeles nightclub. He had a blood alcohol level of 0.19" Two years later: "King was arrested for DUI while on a trip to Pennsylvania." Two months after that, "King got into an argument with his wife while he was driving, pulled off the freeway and ordered her out of the car. When she started to get out, King sped off, leaving her on the highway with a bruised arm. King was charged with assault with a deadly weapon (his car), reckless driving, spousal abuse, and hit-and-run." in 1999, "King allegedly injured the sixteen-year-old girl that he had fathered out of wedlock when he was seventeen, as well as the girl's mother. King was arrested for injuring the woman, the girl, and for vandalizing property." (See: Kings Arrest Record.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Yup, and years (no, make that decades) after a systematically racist, jackbooted approach to policing by the LAPD, on top of social segregation, general racism, untoward remarks from police and civic leaders, along with squalid living conditions, limited economic opportunities, the Zoot Suit Riots, the Watts Riots, etc., etc., etc. (See T. Pynchon's "A Journey into the Mind of Watts," for example, or anything in Mike Davis's City of Quartz) By smearing King, Wade, you merely make yourself look more and more like a bigot and a racist. I bet you thought the guys heckling Michael "Kosmo Kramer" Richards "deserved" what they got too, eh?