Huh? I thought that married couples could have more than one such conversation if they wanted.
LOL!
OK, let me rephrase my comment to Jason... I'm hoping as a priesthood holding man who may have been in leadership positions, he has not discussed the intimate details of garment wearing, sexual proclivities, and sexual desire. Ya know?
Orr... maybe, just maybe, women feel more comfortable sharing their difficulties concerning sexuality and garments with a female counselor than they do with a male priesthood member or leader.
I would be quite fine with this. Maybe some of this occurs now with Relief Society presidents and all, but yea, a female bishop of counselor in the bishopric would be cool.
I mean seriously, how many intimate conversations have you had with women concerning their sexual desire, intimate garment wearing, and the like? I'm hoping the answer is only one. ;-)
Well now, yea, just one. Well, in some leadership roles the issues of sexual issues has come up. But no, we have not talked about garments.
I'm not saying many women do not go along with garment wearing. I'm suggesting it doesn't add to a healthy romantic or intimate relationship.
Well Mormons are still popping a lot of babies out.
Orr... maybe, just maybe, women feel more comfortable sharing their difficulties concerning sexuality and garments with a female counselor than they do with a male priesthood member or leader.
I would be quite fine with this. Maybe some of this occurs now with Relief Society presidents and all, but yea, a female bishop of counselor in the bishopric would be cool.
I mean seriously, how many intimate conversations have you had with women concerning their sexual desire, intimate garment wearing, and the like? I'm hoping the answer is only one. ;-)
Well now, yea, just one. Well, in some leadership roles the issues of sexual issues has come up. But no, we have not talked about garments.
I'm not saying many women do not go along with garment wearing. I'm suggesting it doesn't add to a healthy romantic or intimate relationship.
Well Mormons are still popping a lot of babies out.
"Popping a lot of babies out" hardly has much to do with a "healthy romantic or intimate relationship," per se.
Having children does not mean one has a healthy, romantic, intimate relationship.
My observation is that garments harm intimate relationships because many women feel asexual, unattractive, ugly, which inhibits and thwarts a sexual desire. In addition few men I know, (like no one) finds their wife attractive while wearing garments. Garments on women (in my opinion purposely) thwart the sexual desire in men. I'm not saying men become asexual, I'm suggesting seeing one's wife in something so ugly and odd does not lend itself to being sexually attracted to her.
truth dancer wrote:Thank you Scratch. That was my point.
Having children does not mean one has a healthy, romantic, intimate relationship.
My observation is that garments harm intimate relationships because many women feel asexual, unattractive, ugly, which inhibits and thwarts a sexual desire. In addition few men I know, (like no one) finds their wife attractive while wearing garments. Garments on women (in my opinion purposely) thwart the sexual desire in men. I'm not saying men become asexual, I'm suggesting seeing one's wife in something so ugly and odd does not lend itself to being sexually attracted to her.
~dancer~
I'm not sure if there is any linkage there but as many pointed out in the WoW thread -- it's about control. So if it does make a woman feel better to choose her own panties and adorn herself in ways that she likes, then garments work against her in that way...and control her.
Never mind that I personally find them hideous -- magical powers notwithstanding.
"Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we go to church we're just making him madder and madder" --Homer Simpson's version of Pascal's Wager
Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool.
Religion is ignorance reduced to a system.
truth dancer wrote:Thank you Scratch. That was my point.
Having children does not mean one has a healthy, romantic, intimate relationship.
My observation is that garments harm intimate relationships because many women feel asexual, unattractive, ugly, which inhibits and thwarts a sexual desire. In addition few men I know, (like no one) finds their wife attractive while wearing garments. Garments on women (in my opinion purposely) thwart the sexual desire in men. I'm not saying men become asexual, I'm suggesting seeing one's wife in something so ugly and odd does not lend itself to being sexually attracted to her.
~dancer~
Ok, so I wil ask you, how many men other then your one have you discussed this with. How many women?
truth dancer wrote:Thank you Scratch. That was my point.
Having children does not mean one has a healthy, romantic, intimate relationship.
My observation is that garments harm intimate relationships because many women feel asexual, unattractive, ugly, which inhibits and thwarts a sexual desire. In addition few men I know, (like no one) finds their wife attractive while wearing garments. Garments on women (in my opinion purposely) thwart the sexual desire in men. I'm not saying men become asexual, I'm suggesting seeing one's wife in something so ugly and odd does not lend itself to being sexually attracted to her.
~dancer~
Ok, so I wil ask you, how many men other then your one have you discussed this with. How many women?
Jason---
Are you kidding? You've already had a few males on this thread tell you that garments are sexually unappealing. Just what is it you're trying to argue, exactly? That the garments are hot? That they don't interfere at all with sexual attraction, what?
Okay, I've told this story before but I think this is as good a time as any to tell it again:
Does anyone remember the poster "Onandagus" from our former board and from ZLMB? Well, one day he told me about a certain Elder's Quorum meeting he was sitting in. The speaker talked about how some Mormon was mauled by a shark, but the only parts of the guy's body the shark didn't eat were the parts covered by the garments.
I couldn't stop laughing. What good are the protective powers of garments if you lose both legs, both arms, and your head?
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"