God Having Sex with Mary

[_moksha]

I think the stories of God having sex with women has been around a long time. What can I say, when males anthropomorphize Gods they make them horny.

[_truth dancer]

Hi Moksha,

You are too funny! :-)

~dancer~

[_harmony]

I think the stories of God having sex with women has been around a long time. What can I say, when males anthropomorphize Gods they make them horny.

And that's because... that's how they think?

[_moksha]

I think the stories of God having sex with women has been around a long time. What can I say, when males anthropomorphize Gods they make them horny.

And that's because... that's how they think?

We men can't help it, God created us that way. Besides, none of Zeus's women complained and none of the Greeks batted an eye at his dalliances. Perhaps they did not have a systematic theology due to their being too busy with civilization.

[_Gazelam]

Moses 5:4-12
4 And Adam and Eve, his wife, called upon the name of the Lord, and they heard the voice of the Lord from the way toward the Garden of Eden, speaking unto them, and they saw him not; for they were shut out from his presence.
5 And he gave unto them commandments, that they should worship the Lord their God, and should offer the firstlings of their flocks, for an offering unto the Lord. And Adam was obedient unto the commandments of the Lord.
6 And after many days an angel of the Lord appeared unto Adam, saying: Why dost thou offer sacrifices unto the Lord? And Adam said unto him: I know not, save the Lord commanded me.
7 And then the angel spake, saying: This thing is a similitude of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten of the Father, which is full of grace and truth.
8 Wherefore, thou shalt do all that thou doest in the name of the Son, and thou shalt repent and call upon God in the name of the Son forevermore.
9 And in that day the Holy Ghost fell upon Adam, which beareth record of the Father and the Son, saying: I am the Only Begotten of the Father from the beginning, henceforth and forever, that as thou hastcfallen thou mayest be redeemed, and all mankind, even as many as will.
10 And in that day Adam blessed God and was filled, and began to prophesy concerning all the families of the earth, saying: Blessed be the name of God, for because of my transgression my eyes are opened, and in this life I shall have joy, and again in the flesh I shall see God.
11 And Eve, his wife, heard all these things and was glad, saying: Were it not for our transgression we never should have had aseed, and never should have known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption, and the eternal life which God giveth unto all the obedient.
12 And Adam and Eve blessed the name of God, and they made all things known unto their sons and their daughters.

The coming of Christ, the way he would enter the world, and the work he would accomplish, was taught from the beginning.
All tales that you see as similar have the teachings of Adam to his family as their root The Messiah and the promise of his coming was not a new story, it was taught from the beginning, even before the formation of this world.

That the Father could have inseminated Mary in some other way is possible, but doubtful. Christ needed the blood of both his Father and his Mother to accomplish his mission. The need to perform this in some other way than the natural is a strange idea to me.

Gaz

[_harmony]

Christ needed the blood of both his Father and his Mother to accomplish his mission.

Why? And a related question:

What is the process to being God?

#1. God the Father was once a man BEFORE he was God.

#2. Jesus was God BEFORE he was a man.

You can't have it both ways, Gaz.

[_truth dancer]

Hi Gaz...

The coming of Christ, the way he would enter the world, and the work he would accomplish, was taught from the beginning.
All tales that you see as similar have the teachings of Adam to his family as their root The Messiah and the promise of his coming was not a new story, it was taught from the beginning, even before the formation of this world.

With all due respect Gaz, this is the story told by Nibley and company but it is nonsense. Myths didn't start out and dissolve, they EVOLVED. This is very clear as we look at the history of the world. I recall Nibley in his early days promoting such nonsense concerning language, myth, ritual, etc. I'm quite certain in his later days he realized he was completey mistaken. Reality is completey opposite of what Nibley proposed in his early days.

That the Father could have inseminated Mary in some other way is possible, but doubtful.

Why doubtful? With all due respect you assume the God of the Universe has the same knowledge, emotions, drives, body, information as do you. You really don't think the God of the Universe, if he did indeed have similar sperm to advanced human primates living on earth had to have physical sex to father a human child?

Christ needed the blood of both his Father and his Mother to accomplish his mission.

OK.. hold the phone! Are you saying God has blood? What? Is it not scriptural that the resurrected Christ had a body of flesh and bones but no blood? Which of course brings up how one can create sperm if there is not blood. I don't want to get into the particulars on a PG board but lets be real, guys need blood to have sex! The idea that God has DNA that can be transmitted via sex but has no blood is, well silliness, or a reflection of a very advanced species who would certainly not have to have sex with a human to create more DNA.

Now if you go with the idea that God is magical and supernatural fine but then don't hold to other ideas where God can't do anything other than the human way of doing things. Lets be consistent K?

The need to perform this in some other way than the natural is a strange idea to me.

Why do you think the human form of mating is the only way of procreating that is natural? Look at the world Gaz... sexuality didn't come into existence until fairly recently. And do you really think evolution stops at this particular moment? There are many more ways of reproducing to come.

But you make a good point.... you can't imagine something else because you are human. But why limit GOD?

Then we have the idea that was not addressed of angels being sexual active with human females, in the Old Testament. What do you think? Still happening? Do angels have blood and sperm or just God?

I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just trying to be real... ya know? We have these stories that we just accept without actually thinking about them.

~dancer~

[_Gazelam]

First, lets clear up your Old Testament distortion.

The correct translation is as follows: Moses 8:13-17
13 And Noah and his sons hearkened unto the Lord, and gave heed, and they were called the sons of God.
14 And when these men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, the sons of men saw that those daughters were fair, and they took them wives, even as they chose.
15 And the Lord said unto Noah: The daughters of thy sons have sold themselves; for behold mine anger is kindled against the sons of men, for they will not hearken to my voice.
16 And it came to pass that Noah prophesied, and taught the things of God, even as it was in the beginning.
17 And the Lord said unto Noah: My Spirit shall not always strive with man, for he shall know that all flesh shall die; yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years; and if men do not repent, I will send in the floods upon them.

What we learn from this is that those who accept the gospel of Christ and take upon themselves his name and priesthood are known as the sons of God. What caused the wickedness in the days of Noah were the children of these men marrying outside of the church and inheriting false teachings. Angels cannot procreate since there is no seed outside of the Celestial kingdom. (D&C 132:19-20)


This brings us to your other question. I am well aware that God does not have blood, but we do know that in the Celestial kingdom seed continues. What there is in a Celestial body that replaces blood is unknown, as well as being irrelevent to our salvation. We do know that it isn't like our blood since the disciples were able to place their hands into the saviors side, and feel the prints of the nails in his hands and feet. What I have said before remains true though. Christ inherited from his Father the ability to choose the time of his death, and the ability to take his life up again makeing possible the resurrection of us all.

Gaz

[_Brackite]

Hi Truth dancer and Gazelam,

You wrote truth dancer:

OK.. hold the phone! Are you saying God has blood? What? Is it not scriptural that the resurrected Christ had a body of flesh and bones but no blood? Which of course brings up how one can create sperm if there is not blood. I don't want to get into the particulars on a PG board but lets be real, guys need blood to have sex! The idea that God has DNA that can be transmitted via sex but has no blood is, well silliness, or a reflection of a very advanced species who would certainly not have to have sex with a human to create more DNA.

It is Not Scriptural that God has blood. Here is a Scriptural Passage from the New Testament:

1 Corinthians 15:50 (New American Standard Bible)

The Mystery of Resurrection

50 Now I say this, brethren, that (A)flesh and blood cannot (B)inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit (C)the imperishable.


Cross references:

1 Corinthians 15:50 : Matt 16:17; John 3:5
1 Corinthians 15:50 : 1 Cor 6:9
1 Corinthians 15:50 : Rom 2:7

Here is one of the Cross References of 1 Corinthians 15:50, which is to Matthew 16:17:

Matthew 16:17 (New American Standard Bible)

17 And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you, (A)Simon Barjona, because (B)flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.


Cross references:

Matthew 16:17 : John 1:42; 21:15-17
Matthew 16:17 : 1 Cor 15:50; Gal 1:16; Eph 6:12; Heb 2:14

In Luke Chapter 24, Jesus stated that he has a body of flesh and bones, Not a body of flesh and blood. Here is Luke 24:39:

Luke 24:39 (New American Standard Bible)

39"(A)See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; (B)touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have."


Cross references:

Luke 24:39 : John 20:20, 27
Luke 24:39 : John 20:27; 1 John 1:1

Edited to Correct Grammar.

[_Gazelam]

Thanks Brack.