Runtu wrote:For me, they were a daily reminder of being misled by a fake religion. They came off not long after I realized what the church was. Besides, here in Texas it would be crazy to wear an extra layer of clothes when I don't have to or want to.
LOL, I remember writing a post on another board years ago about buying underwear again. It was quite a liberating experience to go get a pair of purple drawers.
Granny panties!!!!
Each one has to find his peace from within. And peace to be real must be unaffected by outside circumstances. -Ghandi
I was curious in general what everyone else's thoughts were on this topic. I've pretty much already made the decision and feel peaceful at this time in my life about it with God.
I noticed a topic simiular to this (something like - can people who leave the Church keep their covenants?) on MADB and wanted to go a step further.
I believe you can keep those covenants - and for me, part of those covenants include my garments. I still hold the temple in high regards, and I still believe firmly I made covenants with my Heavenly Father there seperate of any particular church body. So therefor, I am still bond by those covenants and the symbol by which I am outwardly expressing those covenants is still the same - my garments. The other things the garments represent - are still nice things to remember, ponder, and return to scriptures about.
But this is just me. What about others? Do you think the covenants from the temple can still be kept if someone leaves the LDS church?
Selah wrote:I believe you can keep those covenants - and for me, part of those covenants include my garments. I still hold the temple in high regards, and I still believe firmly I made covenants with my Heavenly Father there seperate of any particular church body. So therefor, I am still bond by those covenants and the symbol by which I am outwardly expressing those covenants is still the same - my garments. The other things the garments represent - are still nice things to remember, ponder, and return to scriptures about.
As I said in a reply on your blog...I think God will recognize promises as something from within that doesn't require any external things, but if you want to wear them as a sign of faith it's your decision.
Do you think the covenants from the temple can still be kept if someone leaves the LDS church?
It seems that many people who start studying the origins of the temple ceremony realize where Joseph Smith really got the ceremony (hint: it wasn't from God)...I would think that learning where the ceremony comes from takes a lot of the specialness out of it. Personally I think a covenant with God is really an agreement on some level between a person and the Almighty....it can be made anywhere in any situation. It doesn't require any special house of worship or any special ceremonies. It's something that you make in your heart and soul and spirit and mind. Now if you've created that kind of covenant, it's something beyond any external proof of your commitment to the covenant.
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
Selah wrote:I was curious in general what everyone else's thoughts were on this topic. I've pretty much already made the decision and feel peaceful at this time in my life about it with God.
I noticed a topic simiular to this (something like - can people who leave the Church keep their covenants?) on MADB and wanted to go a step further.
I believe you can keep those covenants - and for me, part of those covenants include my garments. I still hold the temple in high regards, and I still believe firmly I made covenants with my Heavenly Father there seperate of any particular church body. So therefor, I am still bond by those covenants and the symbol by which I am outwardly expressing those covenants is still the same - my garments. The other things the garments represent - are still nice things to remember, ponder, and return to scriptures about.
But this is just me. What about others? Do you think the covenants from the temple can still be kept if someone leaves the LDS church?
I don't see why not. But knowing the origins of the temple ceremony, I don't believe God holds me responsible for covenants I made under false pretenses. In fact, I suspect that God doesn't want us to keep promises when we find out they were made through deception. But that's just me.
I'm beginning to think I'm one of the few LDS who doesn't consider not wearing garments day in and day out a sin (after discussing on a few boards). Hmmm, go figure.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
It seems that many people who start studying the origins of the temple ceremony realize where Joseph Smith really got the ceremony (hint: it wasn't from God)
Bond, there is so much evidence for the temple ceremony outside of Mormonism its ridiculous.
The Nehor wrote:I'm beginning to think I'm one of the few LDS who doesn't consider not wearing garments day in and day out a sin (after discussing on a few boards). Hmmm, go figure.
To my knowledge the only time you shouldent wear garments is sport activities and bathing. What are others saying?
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
The Nehor wrote:I'm beginning to think I'm one of the few LDS who doesn't consider not wearing garments day in and day out a sin (after discussing on a few boards). Hmmm, go figure.
To my knowledge the only time you shouldent wear garments is sport activities and bathing. What are others saying?
The same as you with the addition of sex.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
The last bishop I talked witth thought I should just wear long shorts when I worked out so I could still wear garments.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.