The Nehor wrote:My evidence for the Holy Ghost claim is an experiment I attempted. Go pray to God and attempt to remove all prejudice from your mind and ask him to reveal himself to you.
If you are unwilling or unable to do that then there is nothing I can do for you.
The
claim “Holy Spirit” is
prejudicial. It comes out of religious mythology entirely
prejudicial. Likewise, the claim
God was invented to perpetuate
religious doctrine. Evidence supports the emergence and modification of
God inventions man constructed.
Hence, we must disregard ancient or present
claims and ask without prejudice for the
compelling evidence which can be
objectively presented for the claims inherent in your language.
By
removing all prejudice from one’s thinking, one must ask those who make claims for
gods (much earlier in human history) and those who make claims for
God (current religious mythologies) to present that
compelling evidence for all to see clearly.
Valid
“experiment” should be observed by
all in objective light. Personal, emotional introspection following religious indoctrination is not
prejudice free. The opposite is the case. So as we eliminate prejudice, we require clear, concise, objective information which can be observed and tested.
For example, we can test gravity and do. We can test it alone or collectively and find reliable, clear results. This “experiment” is transparent and open to non pre-judgment.
You make the
claims here for both
“God” and for
“Holy Spirit”. In making those claims it is
you who have the
burden of proof and the responsibility for presentation of
free from prejudice evidence.
Private, personal “experiment” is irrelevant and pointless. You can conjure up anything to which your environment has exposed you. The
challenge is for you to present compelling, transparent, and clear
evidence for claims you make.
Absent that clear
evidence, you fail credibility. Your imperative is irrelevant.
Nehor stated:
Go pray to God and attempt to remove all prejudice from your mind and ask him to reveal himself to you.
Your statement
assumes the reliability of your claim
“God”. Yet you have presented nothing to support the claim. Your
personal, emotional experience is entirely irrelevant.
How would you respond if I were to suggest that
you go and pray to the Tooth Fairy and attempt to remove all prejudice from your mind and ask him to reveal himself to you?
What would you say? Just substitute
Tooth Fairy in your command.
What you
should do is require evidence for the implicit claim. The implicit claim is that “Tooth Fairy” is or exists.
So you
ought to require of
me compelling evidence for the claim: “Tooth Fairy.”
I suspect you would if your post here is honest. Or, you might say:
I do not accept your (my) claim of "Tooth Fairy". And, you might say:
What is your evidence there IS a “Tooth Fairy”? The
burden of proof would be mine to present compelling, transparent evidence
for my claim “Tooth Fairy.”
Of course, I do not claim that for which there is no compelling transparent evidence. But,
you do.
The
burden of proof lies with you to support your claims.
Your previous claim that “Holy Spirit” is
male is as spurious as your claim of “Holy Spirit.” Why is
sex relevant, or how is it relevant to your other claim?
Again, piling one claim on top of another in no way reinforces the first claim. It’s a fatal flaw.
Nehor stated:
My evidence for the Holy Ghost claim is an experiment I attempted. Go pray to God and attempt to remove all prejudice from your mind and ask him to reveal himself to you.
If you are unwilling or unable to do that then there is nothing I can do for you.
If you, Nehor, are unwilling or unable to present a clear, transparent case for your claims, those claims
should be disregarded.
JAK