The So-Called Mountain Meadows Massacre

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_Runtu
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Post by _Runtu »

My favorite recent use of "so-called":

Should doubt knock at your doorway, just say to those skeptical, disturbing, rebellious thoughts: “I propose to stay with my faith, with the faith of my people. I know that happiness and contentment are there, and I forbid you, agnostic, doubting thoughts, to destroy the house of my faith. I acknowledge that I do not understand the processes of creation, but I accept the fact of it. I grant that I cannot explain the miracles of the Bible, and I do not attempt to do so, but I accept God’s word. I wasn’t with Joseph, but I believe him. My faith did not come to me through science, and I will not permit so-called science to destroy it.”


This one is just unbelievable. It reminds me of Chico Marx's statement, "Who are you going to believe? Me or your own eyes?"
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That tricky old science....

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Should doubt knock at your doorway, just say to those skeptical, disturbing, rebellious thoughts: “I propose to stay with my faith, with the faith of my people. I know that happiness and contentment are there, and I forbid you, agnostic, doubting thoughts, to destroy the house of my faith. I acknowledge that I do not understand the processes of creation, but I accept the fact of it. I grant that I cannot explain the miracles of the Bible, and I do not attempt to do so, but I accept God’s word. I wasn’t with Joseph, but I believe him. My faith did not come to me through science, and I will not permit so-called science to destroy it.”


May good sense and precise methodology never prevail against myths, fairytales, and just-so stories too!
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Post by _beastie »

Put together by "Tolworthy" (a.k.a. "Faraday") of The View From the Foyer site:

http://zarahemlacitylimits.com/wiki/index.php/So-called



Hilarious! And I never understood where TSCC came from before!!! LOL!
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So-called again

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beastie wrote:
Put together by "Tolworthy" (a.k.a. "Faraday") of The View From the Foyer site:

http://zarahemlacitylimits.com/wiki/index.php/So-called



Hilarious! And I never understood where TSCC came from before!!! LOL!


It would be interesting to do a thorough study of the use of this term in different organizations to see if there are identifiable trends, with certain kinds of groups using it in their rhetoric more than others. On first blush it looks to me like a group using this rhetoric so often has a problem with the outside world.
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Post by _beastie »

It would be interesting to do a thorough study of the use of this term in different organizations to see if there are identifiable trends, with certain kinds of groups using it in their rhetoric more than others. On first blush it looks to me like a group using this rhetoric so often has a problem with the outside world.


I suspect your so-called theory would be correct. ;)
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The plot thickens

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Wahhabism (Arabic: Al-Wahhābīyya الوهابية, Wahabism) is a branch of Sunni Islam practised by those who follow the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab, after whom the movement is named. Ibn Abdul Wahhab, who reintroduced Shariah (Islamic law) to the Arabian peninsula, was influenced by the writings of scholars such as Ahmad ibn Hanbal and Ibn Taymiyya. This theology is the dominant form found in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar, as well as some pockets of Somalia, Algeria, Palestine and Mauritania.

The term "Wahhabi" (Wahhābīya) ("Wahabbism") is considered derogatory and rarely used by the people it is used to describe, who preferred to be called as "unitarians". Some use Wahhabism and Salafism interchangeably. Others consider Wahhabism to be an ultra-conservative form of Salafism. Ingrid Mattson, a professor of Islamic Studies from Hartford Seminary, calls Wahhabism a reform movement, rather than a sect. (emphasis added)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism


I got this information from an RfM post. We have had some spirited discussions there about the use of various terms that are considered derogatory by some and not others. Terms that would get you fired in Canada if used in public apparently are OK in other areas. As language and connotation changes, it is wise to keep up, I always say. Unless you totally don't care about being demeaning to others and possibly causing offence.
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Post by _Polygamy Porter »

The wording that Danny uses makes this a dead ringer for members.

He knows the target audience for this is he active(and probably Peterson idolizing) members.

All of the media attention, both good and bad, is normalizing Mormonism, to the point that non members look and it and say "meh".
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Post by _moksha »

I prefer Wasabism, which is practice of attaining a narrowed field of consciousness, somewhat imitating a spiritual epiphany, after ingesting a sufficiently large chunk of this green horseradish-like paste. This practice is enhanced with the concomitant use of pickled ginger.
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Post by _Runtu »

moksha wrote:I prefer Wasabism, which is practice of attaining a narrowed field of consciousness, somewhat imitating a spiritual epiphany, after ingesting a sufficiently large chunk of this green horseradish-like paste. This practice is enhanced with the concomitant use of pickled ginger.


I love the rush of too much wasabi. It's almost spiritual, isn't it?
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Post by _moksha »

Runtu wrote: I love the rush of too much wasabi. It's almost spiritual, isn't it?


A big click of the chop sticks to that!
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