Do you still respect the titles?

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KimberlyAnn wrote:I demanded the title "Cupcake Queen" and I got it! ;P

Everyone should respect my title and address me appropriately!

Her Highness,

KA

PS- I call my former Bishop by his first name now.


KimberlyAnn, for what you have been through in Mormonism, you definitely deserve to be called Queen.
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Inconceivable wrote:First names show respect for friendship or at least aquointance.

They are not my Bishop or Stake President anymore. I prefer not to use the term brother or sister as well. I wouldn't want them to mistake respect for a false hope in my return to the fold. I'm not coming back.


Absolutely. Give a Mormon an inch, and then will take ten miles.
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Infymus wrote:Yes, my wife is still LDS and to respect her wishes (a.k.a. to to fight about it), I allow her to follow her own faith.


How very big of you... to "allow" her to follow her own faith. You sound exactly like every Mormon priesthood holder I ever knew.
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truth dancer wrote:
Do you feel this way about an politician. Like addressing a Senator as "Honorable" or your local Mayor as such? Or your Doctor doctor? Would you not call a catholic priest Father, or a minister pastor? In our society we have cultural conventions of civility. It is quite simple. Of course our civility in the USA is on the decline. Dress, language, culture, movies, magazines and so on reflect this.


Yes I feel this way about everyone.

We are all just regular people doing our best to manage life.

No one is better because of positions of power, or birthright or knowledge, or money or because they claim to be better than another.

A few months ago the Queen of England visited Williamsburg, and the event sort of made me sick inside... so many people "worshipping" her, bowing, groveling, etc. etc. I see it with movie stars, wealthy and famous folks, religious leaders (not just LDS ones).

What you call "conventions of civility," I call archaic terms of heirarchy and power... (smile). They need to go the way of the dinosaur!

:-)

~dancer~


Well we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
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truth dancer wrote:A few months ago the Queen of England visited Williamsburg, and the event sort of made me sick inside... so many people "worshipping" her, bowing, groveling, etc. etc. I see it with movie stars, wealthy and famous folks, religious leaders (not just LDS ones).

What you call "conventions of civility," I call archaic terms of heirarchy and power... (smile). They need to go the way of the dinosaur!

:-)

~dancer~


You say things in such a kind way, TD. I concur.

Another way of putting it:

The US set a standard by tossing the king's tea into the harbour a couple hundred years ago. No doubt if she showed up for a taste, all we would have seen were a pair of fat legs bobbing in the water.

Too bad some of these people of Williamstown forgot what many have paid the ultimate price for.
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truth dancer wrote:
Do you feel this way about an politician. Like addressing a Senator as "Honorable" or your local Mayor as such? Or your Doctor doctor? Would you not call a catholic priest Father, or a minister pastor? In our society we have cultural conventions of civility. It is quite simple. Of course our civility in the USA is on the decline. Dress, language, culture, movies, magazines and so on reflect this.


Yes I feel this way about everyone.

We are all just regular people doing our best to manage life.

No one is better because of positions of power, or birthright or knowledge, or money or because they claim to be better than another.

A few months ago the Queen of England visited Williamsburg, and the event sort of made me sick inside... so many people "worshipping" her, bowing, groveling, etc. etc. I see it with movie stars, wealthy and famous folks, religious leaders (not just LDS ones).

What you call "conventions of civility," I call archaic terms of heirarchy and power... (smile). They need to go the way of the dinosaur!

Hi TD, as usual, "...i'm with you Babe..." old song paraphrased... Standards of "civility" change with time and awareness. I'm quite surprised to see this polarizing the site as it seems to have! Can't help but wonder "why". AND, the name-calling, intolerances...Like WOW! Play-ground sand-box, or what?? LOL! All because someone expresses a nonconforming opinion??

Mentioned at the beginning, restaurants under a form of lock-down because LDS elite are patrons?? I'd have never known that, living away up in Canada land where politicians and local 'nobilitity' share accomodations equally--OK, prices do tend to seperate. It seems only when out of country celebs visit that we witness security that is foreign to us.

Personally i'm not, nor ever have been much of a title-person. This does not mean i'm not a person without respect of others. Generally it's the ease by which a name roles off my tongue that determines what i use. I simply believe whom ever i might be addressing would honour my choice, should the not? Is their ego more important than "civility"? Interesting that N.A. political heads tossed of crowns and robes of office, yet somehow the masses are expected to treat them as if fully garbed Royalty. What gives here?

Watched a program yesterday featuring Con-men. This one, posed as a Priest and married a couple, who went away to live happily-ever-after. Until they became aware of the ruse. (Ignorance is bliss?) Made me think of the couples i joined together in Holy Marimony as a LDS authorized by church and state officer to perform the service. I couldn't help but consider the absurdity of a piece of signed paper lending such unquestioned credibility to anotherwise ordinary 'Joe'. Which begs a few questions re the BIG con that might base much of the Officiousness that tends to condition individual response to "Authority" or those considered worthy of adulation... YIKES!! I stepped out of place here WAAAAAAAAAAAA!! PLease forgive me TD????????????????

~dancer~


YOUR most unworthy one offers THE warmest regards, roger
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Hi Inconceivable... LOL! There have been times when I blame my lack of support for the "King and Queen" thing on my ancestors... some arrived here in the early 1600s to get away from the monarchy... so it is in my genes! ;-)

Hi Roger... ahhh you could never offend me! :-)

I'm right with you!

I respect people for their goodness, their wisdom (you for example), their character, and their humanness... but the idea of creating a heirarchy based on money, position, power, fame, glory, or claim to God just doesn't set well with me... ya know?

:-)

To be honest, the people I look to as an example, the folks I admire, those from whom I learn the most are often the quiet, gentle, unassuming, loving, caring people who would never want to be worshipped, adored, or exalted!

~dancer~
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I don't even call my own brothers "brother". If they don't earn the title brother, no one does. I call them by their names. And no I'm not calling Hinckley prophet either until he predicts the lottery (and sends me the numbers in a sealed envelope at least 48 hours beforehand).
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harmony wrote:
Infymus wrote:Yes, my wife is still LDS and to respect her wishes (a.k.a. to to fight about it), I allow her to follow her own faith.


How very big of you... to "allow" her to follow her own faith. You sound exactly like every Mormon priesthood holder I ever knew.


Shut up and sit down while the men are talking.

And get me a sammich.
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Infymus wrote:
harmony wrote:
Infymus wrote:Yes, my wife is still LDS and to respect her wishes (a.k.a. to to fight about it), I allow her to follow her own faith.


How very big of you... to "allow" her to follow her own faith. You sound exactly like every Mormon priesthood holder I ever knew.


Shut up and sit down while the men are talking.

And get me a sammich.


Tsk tsk. Sounds like you need an antacid.
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