Is this the new Apostle Quentin Cook?

[_Trevor]

Yep I expected that you would certainly jump to rash conclusions and make irrational comparisons. Next?

Here's a wild thought. Elder Cook once worshiped at the altar of privatization and truly believed that what he was doing was for the best for everyone. He started having doubts about it, maybe even came to see that he had been horribly wrong, and then set off onto a path of sincere repentance for his role in the Marin County healthcare debacle. He went on a mission, served faithfully, and has been serving in this way ever since. His profound, remarkable change of heart has him glowing with the Spirit, and so when it came time to call a new apostle, all couldn't see calling anyone else. His prior relationship with Elder Eyring, whatever it was, is a complete coincidence. Essentially, we are all being mean-spirited and unfair when we question his call. We don't know him, and all of the above could be true.

Then again, it may not. Who knows? They do, and I do not.

[_Jason Bourne]

Yep I expected that you would certainly jump to rash conclusions and make irrational comparisons. Next?

Here's a wild thought. Elder Cook once worshiped at the altar of privatization and truly believed that what he was doing was for the best for everyone. He started having doubts about it, maybe even came to see that he had been horribly wrong, and then set off onto a path of sincere repentance for his role in the Marin County healthcare debacle. He went on a mission, served faithfully, and has been serving in this way ever since. His profound, remarkable change of heart has him glowing with the Spirit, and so when it came time to call a new apostle, all couldn't see calling anyone else. His prior relationship with Elder Eyring, whatever it was, is a complete coincidence. Essentially, we are all being mean-spirited and unfair when we question his call. We don't know him, and all of the above could be true.

Then again, it may not. Who knows? They do, and I do not.

My point is that there are a couple of resources that point to some dealings that do not look great but perhaps are provided by parties that were opposed to something that may have been fine. On the other hand there may have been bad behavior or questionable business practices and Elder Cook may have been in the wrong. I am not willing to convict the man until I have more data.

However, most here will assume the worst and convict and condemn and spout the nonsense that Mercury posted above.

[_karl61]

Yep I expected that you would certainly jump to rash conclusions and make irrational comparisons. Next?

Here's a wild thought. Elder Cook once worshiped at the altar of privatization and truly believed that what he was doing was for the best for everyone. He started having doubts about it, maybe even came to see that he had been horribly wrong, and then set off onto a path of sincere repentance for his role in the Marin County healthcare debacle. He went on a mission, served faithfully, and has been serving in this way ever since. His profound, remarkable change of heart has him glowing with the Spirit, and so when it came time to call a new apostle, all couldn't see calling anyone else. His prior relationship with Elder Eyring, whatever it was, is a complete coincidence. Essentially, we are all being mean-spirited and unfair when we question his call. We don't know him, and all of the above could be true.

Then again, it may not. Who knows? They do, and I do not.

Did he do a clean six months prior to his mission?

[_Trevor]

My point is that there are a couple of resources that point to some dealings that do not look great but perhaps are provided by parties that were opposed to something that may have been fine. On the other hand there may have been bad behavior or questionable business practices and Elder Cook may have been in the wrong. I am not willing to convict the man until I have more data.

However, most here will assume the worst and convict and condemn and spout the nonsense that Mercury posted above.

At the very least he broke a California state code that prohibited public employees from entering into contracts on behalf of the government that benefited themselves.

I see no reason to condemn Cook at all. I don't know the man, and I don't know how he got where he is. I'll say that it looks kind of poor from here, but looks can be deceiving. When one considers that the apostle Paul had once participated in the murder of Christians, however, this looks somewhat less dramatically evil. I do have to say, though, that if it is what it looks like, it is pretty callous to rip off institutions that were created to treat the sick.

[_Mercury]

I'm not sure the good citizens of Salt Lake know about Elder Cook's past. I wonder if the Trib knew, but because of their connection with the church through their publishing company (yes, Smac! They aren't owned by the church, they just share a publishing company with the DesNews, so they don't get published if they piss off the church), have elected to not let the good citizens of Utah know the history of the newest apostle?

Perhaps before we all leap to judge this at its worst the details of both sides of the issue should be examined.

Side A: he's a new authority in an organization that lives off of charitable donations for capital investment into the elites for-profit businesses. He was picked for his skill in ripping people off through "creative accounting", ala Enron.

Side B: he's a new authority in an organization that lives off of charitable donations for capital investment into the elites for-profit businesses. He was picked for his skill in ripping people off through "creative accounting", ala Enron.

Yep I expected that you would certainly jump to rash conclusions and make irrational comparisons. Next?

Please enlighten me on how my statements are irrational or rash.

[_harmony]

Yep I expected that you would certainly jump to rash conclusions and make irrational comparisons. Next?

Here's a wild thought. Elder Cook once worshiped at the altar of privatization and truly believed that what he was doing was for the best for everyone. He started having doubts about it, maybe even came to see that he had been horribly wrong, and then set off onto a path of sincere repentance for his role in the Marin County healthcare debacle. He went on a mission, served faithfully, and has been serving in this way ever since. His profound, remarkable change of heart has him glowing with the Spirit, and so when it came time to call a new apostle, all couldn't see calling anyone else. His prior relationship with Elder Eyring, whatever it was, is a complete coincidence. Essentially, we are all being mean-spirited and unfair when we question his call. We don't know him, and all of the above could be true.

Then again, it may not. Who knows? They do, and I do not.

Well, true repentence requires restitution. If your scenario is true, then it shouldn't be too hard to find the papertrail of when and how he retrieved the money from, among other places, the offshore Cayman Islands bank account and gave it all back to the hospital. Surely they would have held a press conference for something like $46 million, wouldn't they have?

[_karl61]

Yep I expected that you would certainly jump to rash conclusions and make irrational comparisons. Next?

Here's a wild thought. Elder Cook once worshiped at the altar of privatization and truly believed that what he was doing was for the best for everyone. He started having doubts about it, maybe even came to see that he had been horribly wrong, and then set off onto a path of sincere repentance for his role in the Marin County healthcare debacle. He went on a mission, served faithfully, and has been serving in this way ever since. His profound, remarkable change of heart has him glowing with the Spirit, and so when it came time to call a new apostle, all couldn't see calling anyone else. His prior relationship with Elder Eyring, whatever it was, is a complete coincidence. Essentially, we are all being mean-spirited and unfair when we question his call. We don't know him, and all of the above could be true.

Then again, it may not. Who knows? They do, and I do not.

Well, true repentence requires restitution. If your scenario is true, then it shouldn't be too hard to find the papertrail of when and how he retrieved the money from, among other places, the offshore Cayman Islands bank account and gave it all back to the hospital. Surely they would have held a press conference for something like $46 million, wouldn't they have?

I'm sure the church got it's ten percent.

[_Trevor]

Well, true repentence requires restitution. If your scenario is true, then it shouldn't be too hard to find the papertrail of when and how he retrieved the money from, among other places, the offshore Cayman Islands bank account and gave it all back to the hospital. Surely they would have held a press conference for something like $46 million, wouldn't they have?

Since the money went to Sutter, and not to the personal account of Cook, I don't know what one could expect in regard his personal restitution of all of that money. As for it going to the Cayman Islands, one article did make that claim, but I don't know about the accuracy of that report. Not that it really matters all that much. The theft of millions of dollars from a public institution for the health and welfare of its citizens is despicable no matter how you slice it. That is something I would not want any part of weighing on my conscience.

[_Jason Bourne]

My point is that there are a couple of resources that point to some dealings that do not look great but perhaps are provided by parties that were opposed to something that may have been fine. On the other hand there may have been bad behavior or questionable business practices and Elder Cook may have been in the wrong. I am not willing to convict the man until I have more data.

However, most here will assume the worst and convict and condemn and spout the nonsense that Mercury posted above.

At the very least he broke a California state code that prohibited public employees from entering into contracts on behalf of the government that benefited themselves.

I see no reason to condemn Cook at all. I don't know the man, and I don't know how he got where he is. I'll say that it looks kind of poor from here, but looks can be deceiving. When one considers that the apostle Paul had once participated in the murder of Christians, however, this looks somewhat less dramatically evil. I do have to say, though, that if it is what it looks like, it is pretty callous to rip off institutions that were created to treat the sick.

A fair conclusion based on what information we have seen here.

[_Jason Bourne]

Please enlighten me on how my statements are irrational or rash.

You conclude that there is only one side to the issue, that the man i guilty and then make and irrational comparison to the Enron debacle.