Is this the new Apostle Quentin Cook?

[_CaliforniaKid]

No, I'm not familiar with TribTalk. I mean, I've heard of it, but I always thought it was an EV end-times forum. lol.

[_harmony]

No, I'm not familiar with TribTalk. I mean, I've heard of it, but I always thought it was an EV end-times forum. lol.

Tribtalk is the Tribune's bulletin board. I'm not sure religion is still able to be discussed there, but current events are, and surely this qualifies as a current event!

[_Gadianton]

This is perhaps the first clear indication that the "whitewashing" I anticipated has indeed become a reality. Some here will no doubt recall that a Church "puppet organization" purchased the SL Trib, in effect yanking control away from the family that had looked after the Trib for generations. Now, apparently, the journalists are being muzzled. One would expect the Trib to report on Elder Cook's misdeeds.

Destruction of the press is one of those timeless themes in Mormonism.

[_Mormons4Justice]

http://www.slideshare.net/Mormons4justi ... uentin-l/1

This should help.

[_CaliforniaKid]

Well done, Mormons4justice!

[_Blixa]

Trevor :

Privatization=Celestial Law

Oh, I guess you are not aware of the fact that privatization is an unadulterated good for all. You see, it was good for the hospital to go into debt to the tune of 46 million dollars. It was also good that the quality of healthcare provided by the hospital hit its nadir under Cook's regime. I really don't see how you can criticize a man who siphons millions of public dollars into the coffers of a private corporation that makes him a vice-president in return.

You see, Joseph Smith taught that it was OK to aggrandize one's self as long as one was serving others. Cook was already half way to this true principle, and he wasn't even an apostle yet! Do you think he has learned the other half since then?

I heart you Trevor. That subject heading is priceless (and sig worthy).

pm me if you want to know more about the Trib...

[_rcrocket]

The charge that the Salt Lake Tribune is the mouthpiece of the Church is rather ridiculous, but there are other mediums in Salt Lake that are hostile to the Church -- the Salt Lake Weekly is one.

As far as Elder Cook is involved, the true facts are these. Public hospitals in California have been a disaster. They are poorly run and provide very poor levels of service. The California legislature has authorized the privitatization by several means of these hospitals. In the case of Marin, Marin chose to privatize by leasing its facilities to a managed health care provider, now Sutter Health. That transaction was concluded when hospitals had very weak power in California health.

Since then, hospitals have been able to obtain greater economic power in health care. In or about 2002, the public district decided that it got the wrong end of the deal with Sutter and sought to sue to recover the privatized assets. Never mind that there was no challenge at the time to the transfer. The California Court of Appeal held that the lease had been in operation for over a decade, and the statute of limitations barred the challenge. The California Supreme Court then declined to review the matter.

Cook was a junior member of the legal team when the lease was executed, but he represented both the district and the new entity formed to acquire the assets. When one represents a public entity, such as a public hospital, one cannot perform work for the public entity without disclosing a conflicting financial interest. Here, Cook was going to transition his salary from the district to the new entity. Whether that was a conflict back in the 1980s giving rise to the need for disclosure is very iffy and probably not at all a conflict. Whether Cook failed to disclose the relationship would have been also fairly impossible, since when the district approved the transfer it and its elected officials could see for themselves that Cook was the before-and-after attorney. Again, the law does not prohibit the relationship; it only prohibits the relationship without disclosure.

The transfer had been previously challenged by somebody other than the district in an earlier lawsuit. The Court of Appeal there held that there was nothing wrong with the details of the transfer.

And, Cook didn't "get the money." He was merely a salaried employee before and after.


rcrocket

[_Trevor]

The charge that the Salt Lake Tribune is the mouthpiece of the Church is rather ridiculous, but there are other mediums in Salt Lake that are hostile to the Church -- the Salt Lake Weekly is one.

I never said that. On the other hand, if they can influence the Trib through ownership, I wouldn't be at all surprised that they do. I don't think they are so terribly unsubtle that they would simply start printing GA talks on the fron page or something like that.

As far as Elder Cook is involved, the true facts are these. Public hospitals in California have been a disaster. They are poorly run and provide very poor levels of service. The California legislature has authorized the privitatization by several means of these hospitals. In the case of Marin, Marin chose to privatize by leasing its facilities to a managed health care provider, now Sutter Health. That transaction was concluded when hospitals had very weak power in California health.

Since then, hospitals have been able to obtain greater economic power in health care.

Very interesting. Your "facts" contradict much of what I have read. Perhaps you could steer us to your sources? From what I had read, the hospital was in decent shape when it was privatized, and went deeply into debt subsequently (46m). The people were fighting to get control of their hospitals again because of the disaster the privatization project was. In some cases, this worked.

Cook was a junior member of the legal team when the lease was executed, but he represented both the district and the new entity formed to acquire the assets. When one represents a public entity, such as a public hospital, one cannot perform work for the public entity without disclosing a conflicting financial interest. Here, Cook was going to transition his salary from the district to the new entity. Whether that was a conflict back in the 1980s giving rise to the need for disclosure is very iffy and probably not at all a conflict. Whether Cook failed to disclose the relationship would have been also fairly impossible, since when the district approved the transfer it and its elected officials could see for themselves that Cook was the before-and-after attorney. Again, the law does not prohibit the relationship; it only prohibits the relationship without disclosure.

Once again, call for sources. Interesting, but I am dubious about the veracity of your construal of these events. After all, for a "junior member" of the legal team, this guy made out pretty damn well by any standards. In fact, I find it difficult to believe that someone of such obvious unimportance would have been given such plums. To go from junior member of the legal team to CEO of one company, and vice president of a larger company... Well, I have a difficult time believing that the connection between his prior work and the direct benefits of it is somehow simply fortuitous.

There is the matter of him, as a public employee, entering into a contract that directly benefited him.

And, Cook didn't "get the money." He was merely a salaried employee before and after.

Oh yes, poor Quentin, merely a "salaried employee." I would gladly trade my salary for his. LOL! When you rise to the level of CEO or vice president, you may have a salary, but the extra perks make your minimizing characterization of such a position laughable. When I leave my job, there will be no golden parachute. You and I both know there is a difference between the average "salaried employee" and this guy.

I smell the distinct odor of apologetic on this post.

[_Trevor]

Trevor :
I heart you Trevor. That subject heading is priceless (and sig worthy).

pm me if you want to know more about the Trib...

Thanks for the nod, Blixa! I am flattered.

[_Everybody Wang Chung]

Very interesting thread. Worthy of a bump for members who have signed up during the last couple of years, and might have missed this.