asbestosman wrote:Belial wrote:You wouldn't believe what he did to open himself up for possession
He didn't miss home teaching last month, did he? Either that or maybe he was hanging around here so long that he eventually succombed to a demonic suggestion to take cheap shots at someone here in a moment of anger.
moksha wrote:liz3564 wrote:Belial wrote:Polygamy Porter wrote:Figure out who our demon friend is....
Heheheheheheeh
All right, I confess.
I'm Shades and Juliann's love child.
EWWW! Bad visual!
Poor Shades!
Could be that demons lie and he is Porter and Mercury's love child.
Liz, is that a better visual?
Mercury wrote:moksha wrote:liz3564 wrote:Belial wrote:Polygamy Porter wrote:Figure out who our demon friend is....
Heheheheheheeh
All right, I confess.
I'm Shades and Juliann's love child.
EWWW! Bad visual!
Poor Shades!
Could be that demons lie and he is Porter and Mercury's love child.
Liz, is that a better visual?
that's just wrong.
harmony wrote:I love Eeyore! He is NOT a jackass! And older single LDS males do not become demons. They become menaces to society. Just as Brigham.
1063: On 06/06/99, Mike asked: Did Brigham Young ever say that an unmarried 27-year-old male Church member is a "menace to society"? I have heard this from various members, but I have never been able to find a reference for it.
In 1963, BYU President Ernest L. Wilkinson said:
"As to the single men, I need merely to repeat the admonition attributed to Brigham Young, "Every man not married and over twenty-five is a menace to the community." I asked Dr. Lyman Tyler yesterday if he would document this for me, but he said he had been trying to document it for years; he had given up, so you will have to accept it either on faith, or as apocryphal." (Commencement Exercises May 31, 1963 BYU Speeches of the Year, p.1)
Like many other Latter-day Saints, I know that I have read the quote attributed to President Young, and like many others, I am presently unable to document it. I remember it made a strong impression on my mind because I was 27 and single at that point in my life.
(See Teachings About Marriage home page)
( http://www.lightplanet.com/Mormons/qa/30.htm )
The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy. Others attain unto a glory and may even be permitted to come into the presence of the Father and the Son; but they cannot reign as kings in glory, because they had blessing offered unto them, and they refused to accept them.
( Brigham Young; Journal of Discourses, Volume #11, Page 269, http://journalofdiscourses.org/Vol_11/r ... 11-41.html )
My dear single adult brethren, we are also concerned. We want you to know that the position of the Church has never changed regarding the importance of celestial marriage. It is a commandment of God. The Lord’s declaration in Genesis is still true: “And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone” (Gen. 2:18).
To obtain a fulness of glory and exaltation in the celestial kingdom, one must enter into this holiest of ordinances.
Without marriage, the purposes of the Lord would be frustrated. Choice spirits would be withheld from the experience of mortality. And postponing marriage unduly often means limiting your posterity, and the time will come, brethren, when you will feel and know that loss.
I can assure you that the greatest responsibility and the greatest joys in life are centered in the family, honorable marriage, and rearing a righteous posterity. And the older you become, the less likely you are to marry, and then you may lose these eternal blessings altogether.
President Spencer W. Kimball recounted an experience he once had:
“Recently I met a young returned missionary who is 35 years old. He had been home from his mission for 14 years and yet he was little concerned about his bachelorhood, and laughed about it.
“I shall feel sorry for this young man when the day comes that he faces the Great Judge at the throne and when the Lord asks this boy: ‘Where is your wife?’ All of his excuses which he gave to his fellows on earth will seem very light and senseless when he answers the Judge. ‘I was very busy,’ or ‘I felt I should get my education first,’ or ‘I did not find the right girl’—such answers will be hollow and of little avail. He knew he was commanded to find a wife and marry her and make her happy. He knew it was his duty to become the father of children and provide a rich, full life for them as they grew up. He knew all this, yet postponed his responsibility” (Ensign, Feb. 1975, p. 2).
I realize that some of you brethren may have genuine fears regarding the real responsibilities that will be yours if you do marry. You are concerned about being able to support a wife and family and provide them with the necessities in these uncertain economic times. Those fears must be replaced with faith.
I assure you, brethren, that if you will be industrious, faithfully pay your tithes and offerings, and conscientiously keep the commandments, the Lord will sustain you. Yes, there will be sacrifices required, but you will grow from these and will be a better man for having met them.
Work hard educationally and in your vocation. Put your trust in the Lord, have faith, and it will work out. The Lord never gives a commandment without providing the means to accomplish it (see 1 Ne. 3:7).
Also, do not be caught up in materialism, one of the real plagues of our generation—that is, acquiring things, fast-paced living, and securing career success in the single state.
Honorable marriage is more important than wealth, position, and status. As husband and wife, you can achieve your life’s goals together. As you sacrifice for each other and your children, the Lord will bless you, and your commitment to the Lord and your service in His kingdom will be enhanced.
( Ezra Taft Benson; Ensign, May 1988, Pages 51-52, Link1 , Bold Emphasis Mine. )
Goddamn! Talk about enternal hell!Livingstone22 wrote:Sorry to jump in so late, but we need to remember the council given lately about homosexuals in the church. They, like some others (like those with mental handicaps) may not be able to get married in this life, for various reasons. Although the culture may still be stuck in the "everybody must get married mode" the official council (current) doesn't say that.
Livingstone22 wrote:Sorry to jump in so late, but we need to remember the council given lately about homosexuals in the church. They, like some others (like those with mental handicaps) may not be able to get married in this life, for various reasons. Although the culture may still be stuck in the "everybody must get married mode" the official council (current) doesn't say that.
My dear single adult brethren, we are also concerned. We want you to know that the position of the Church has never changed regarding the importance of celestial marriage. It is a commandment of God. The Lord’s declaration in Genesis is still true: “And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone” (Gen. 2:18).
( 13th LDS Prophet and President, Ezra Taft Benson, 1988, Link. )
It was never intended by the Lord that a large portion of one’s life should be spent in the unmarried state. At a reasonable time in life it was intended that each young man should find that young woman who is best for him, and she should find the young man who would be her best companion. Long-delayed marriages are certainly not approved of the Lord.
( 12th LDS Prophet and President, Spencer W. Kimball, 1975, Link. )