Livingstone22 wrote:Sorry to jump in so late, but we need to remember the council given lately about homosexuals in the church. They, like some others (like those with mental handicaps) may not be able to get married in this life, for various reasons. Although the culture may still be stuck in the "everybody must get married mode" the official council (current) doesn't say that.
The Apostle Paul gave basically gave this counsel, a long time ago. Here is 1 Corinthians Chapter Seven, Verses eight and nine, Within the New Testament:
1 Corinthians 7:8-9: (New International Version):
8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter
Livingstone22 wrote:Sorry to jump in so late, but we need to remember the council given lately about homosexuals in the church. They, like some others (like those with mental handicaps) may not be able to get married in this life, for various reasons. Although the culture may still be stuck in the "everybody must get married mode" the official council (current) doesn't say that.
Goddamn! Talk about enternal hell!
A single woman or a wife of a non believer goes to heaven only to find out they are assigned to a man who lived on earth as a HOMOSEXUAL?
Hell for both I suppose.
Do you think one can commit sodomy after becoming a god? According to LDS theology nobody will get diseased so what does it matter?
I think the thought of the church leaders now is that those with so-called same sex attraction in this life will not have those emotional/sexual attractions once on the other side--but will instead be reverted to the natural hetro-attraction. At that point they may be assigned a woman who was also unmarried.
"Lived on earth as a HOMOSEXUAL"--I think it would be one thing to be assigned a man who had lived a life with homosexual feelings, yet not acted on them (or fully repented of them). It is an entirely a different matter of a man who had been a homosexual (practicing)--in that latter case, the man would not have the ability to be sealed to anyone.
I have, though, also heard the opinion of men with homosexual attractions that living alone in this life, while looking forward to an after-life with a woman, is much like living a life of hell--with the prospect of going to hell too.
Livingstone22 wrote:Sorry to jump in so late, but we need to remember the council given lately about homosexuals in the church. They, like some others (like those with mental handicaps) may not be able to get married in this life, for various reasons. Although the culture may still be stuck in the "everybody must get married mode" the official council (current) doesn't say that.
The Apostle Paul gave basically gave this counsel, a long time ago. Here is 1 Corinthians Chapter Seven, Verses eight and nine, Within the New Testament:
1 Corinthians 7:8-9: (New International Version):
8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
This (as taken literally) is not the viewpoint of LDS church leadership.
My dear single adult brethren, we are also concerned. We want you to know that the position of the Church has never changed regarding the importance of celestial marriage. It is a commandment of God. The Lord’s declaration in Genesis is still true: “And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone” (Gen. 2:18).
It was never intended by the Lord that a large portion of one’s life should be spent in the unmarried state. At a reasonable time in life it was intended that each young man should find that young woman who is best for him, and she should find the young man who would be her best companion. Long-delayed marriages are certainly not approved of the Lord.
( 12th LDS Prophet and President, Spencer W. Kimball, 1975, Link. )
There are a number of Church members who will never get married. Surely the Lord is understanding of this, so why do the Bretheren protest so much? Would it not be better to say, "We want you to get married, but if you don't you are still okay". This message would be more reasonable and people friendly. It would not make these unmarried people feel like second class members.
If we wish to emulate God, than we too must be a parent.
The creative power has been placed withen the bounds of Marriage, and the lessons learned there are crucial to our becoming more like our Heavenly Parents.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
If we wish to emulate God, than we too must be a parent.
The creative power has been placed withen the bounds of Marriage, and the lessons learned there are crucial to our becoming more like our Heavenly Parents.
So if a couple is unable to have children I guess God hates them.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
Jason Bourne wrote:Another brilliant and insightful post by PP. Your witty prose is just so overwhelming....
Overwhelmingly stupid that is.
Well, one probably shouldn't be going around judging prose, Jason, unless you don't mind it being thrown right back at you. You don't want that, do you?
I detest my loose style and my libertine sentiments. I thank God, who has removed from my eyes the veil... Adrian Beverland
If we wish to emulate God, than we too must be a parent.
The creative power has been placed withen the bounds of Marriage, and the lessons learned there are crucial to our becoming more like our Heavenly Parents.
So if a couple is unable to have children I guess God hates them.
Adoption is a regularly practiced rite in the church. Perhaps you've heard of Gentiles who are baptised into the church beign adopted into the family of Abraham?
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
There are a number of Church members who will never get married. Surely the Lord is understanding of this, so why do the Bretheren protest so much? Would it not be better to say, "We want you to get married, but if you don't you are still okay". This message would be more reasonable and people friendly. It would not make these unmarried people feel like second class members.
Hi Moksha,
The Brethren don’t mind too much about some of the sisters within the Church, staying single throughout most or all of their lives. The Following is from the Former 13th LDS Church President Ezra Taft Benson:
I also recognize that not all women in the Church will have an opportunity for marriage and motherhood in mortality. But if those of you in this situation are worthy and endure faithfully, you can be assured of all blessings from a kind and loving Heavenly Father—and I emphasize all blessings.
I assure you that if you have to wait even until the next life to be blessed with a choice companion, God will surely compensate you. Time is numbered only to man. God has your eternal perspective in mind.
I also recognize that some of our sisters are widowed or divorced. My heart is drawn to you who are in these circumstances. The Brethren pray for you, and we feel a great obligation to see that your needs are met. Trust in the Lord. Be assured He loves you and we love you.
If you are a single parent, make friends with others in similar situations and develop friendships with married couples. Counsel with your priesthood leaders. Let them know of your needs and wants. Single parenthood is understood by the Lord. He knows the special challenges that are yours. You are His daughters. He loves you and will bless and sustain you. This I know.
It is the single male members within the Church, that the Brethren do mind very much, and do Not like hardly that much. The Following is from LDS Apostle Dallin H. Oaks:
There is another possible contributing factor to the demise of dating and the prominence of the culture of hanging out. For many years the Church has counseled young people not to date before age 16. Perhaps some young adults, especially men, have carried that wise counsel to excess and determined not to date before 26 or maybe even 36.
Men, if you have returned from your mission and you are still following the boy-girl patterns you were counseled to follow when you were 15, it is time for you to grow up. Gather your courage and look for someone to pair off with. Start with a variety of dates with a variety of young women, and when that phase yields a good prospect, proceed to courtship. It’s marriage time. That is what the Lord intends for His young adult sons and daughters. Men have the initiative, and you men should get on with it. If you don’t know what a date is, perhaps this definition will help. I heard it from my 18-year-old granddaughter. A “date” must pass the test of three p’s: (1) planned ahead, (2) paid for, and (3) paired off.
( 'Elder' Dallin H. Oaks, Ensign, June, 2006: Link. )
"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter