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Buffalo wrote:In the published financial statements of the Church for the year ending December 2009:
Humanitarian aid fund
Donations received - £344,000
Expenditure - £11,000

Nevo, care to comment further?

Is it written somewhere that all humanitarian donations raised in the UK must be spent in the UK?

Given that the Church's humanitarian aid fund focuses on, among other things, wheelchair distribution, vision treatment, disaster relief, neonatal resuscitation training, measles vaccination, and clean water projects, it should not surprise anyone that most of the money raised in the UK is spent outside of the UK.

Guess what? Most of the money raised in the US for humanitarian aid is spent outside of the US too. Go figure.
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jon wrote:Every time I seek sponsorship for various events that I do to raise money for charitable UK causes I can guarentee that every single penny that people give me gets passed on.

So how much money did you donate and/or raise last year for humanitarian causes? Was it even 0.4% of your annual income?
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Nevo wrote:
Buffalo wrote:In the published financial statements of the Church for the year ending December 2009:
Humanitarian aid fund
Donations received - £344,000
Expenditure - £11,000

Nevo, care to comment further?

Is it written somewhere that all humanitarian donations raised in the UK must be spent in the UK?

Given that the Church's humanitarian aid fund focuses on, among other things, wheelchair distribution, vision treatment, disaster relief, neonatal resuscitation training, measles vaccination, and clean water projects, it should not surprise anyone that most of the money raised in the UK is spent outside of the UK.

Guess what? Most of the money raised in the US for humanitarian aid is spent outside of the US too. Go figure.


It looks to me as if they're sitting on the money. Are you saying they've spent the rest of the money for aid, but it's not reflected here?
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Buff, you are correct.

The accounts show that £2 million of humanitarian aid is sat on the balance sheet (and therefore on deposit somewhere).
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Nevo wrote:
Buffalo wrote:In the published financial statements of the Church for the year ending December 2009:
Humanitarian aid fund
Donations received - £344,000
Expenditure - £11,000

Nevo, care to comment further?

Is it written somewhere that all humanitarian donations raised in the UK must be spent in the UK?

Given that the Church's humanitarian aid fund focuses on, among other things, wheelchair distribution, vision treatment, disaster relief, neonatal resuscitation training, measles vaccination, and clean water projects, it should not surprise anyone that most of the money raised in the UK is spent outside of the UK.

Guess what? Most of the money raised in the US for humanitarian aid is spent outside of the US too. Go figure.


Poor old Nevo,

Do you know how much the Church spent on humanitarian aid worldwide in total in 2010?

I do.

How much would you think would be a reasonable amount for a Church led specifically by regular and direct contact with Christ?
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Buffalo wrote:It looks to me as if they're sitting on the money. Are you saying they've spent the rest of the money for aid, but it's not reflected here?

I am suggesting that most of the money that has been raised for humanitarian aid has been or will be spent on humanitarian aid outside of the UK.

Frankly, I am surprised that even 3% of the donations were spent in the UK, unless this includes fast offerings.
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jon wrote:How much would you think would be a reasonable amount for a Church led specifically by regular and direct contact with Christ?

Actually, $0.00 would be reasonable. The Church isn't obliged to provide any humanitarian aid. That's not its mission.

But individuals do have a moral obligation to help the poor and needy. So what have you done?
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Nevo wrote:
jon wrote:How much would you think would be a reasonable amount for a Church led specifically by regular and direct contact with Christ?


Actually, $0.00 would be reasonable. The Church isn't obliged to provide any humanitarian aid. That's not its mission.


What was it Thomas S. Monson added to the three fold mission of the Church a year or two ago....?

1. Preach the gospel
2. Redeem the dead
3. Perfect the Saints
4......
Damn can't think what it was, can anyone help me....?
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Nevo wrote:
jon wrote:How much would you think would be a reasonable amount for a Church led specifically by regular and direct contact with Christ?

Actually, $0.00 would be reasonable. The Church isn't obliged to provide any humanitarian aid. That's not its mission.

But individuals do have a moral obligation to help the poor and needy. So what have you done?


Sure, as long as you acknowledge that the LDS church is in no way affiliated with the teachings or religious practices of one Jesus of Nazareth.
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Some figures from the Church's published balance sheet for year ending December 2009.

Tangible assets £260.5 million
(property and buildings mainly)

Debtors £2.7 million
(people who owe the Church money)

Cash in hand £2.4 million
(cash sat in the bank account)

Investments £6.56 million
(members tithing donations sat earning interest)

Inventory £0.173 million
(stock of things like temple clothes etc)

Total Charity Funds £273.1 million
(what the Church is worth in Great Britain)
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