Blasphemy or Biblical?

[_gdemetz]

I have Tobin, and that is why I have that testimony. Did you ever stop to think that it may be you, seeing that the apostles and prophets agree with me?

[_Tobin]

I have Tobin, and that is why I have that testimony. Did you ever stop to think that it may be you, seeing that the apostles and prophets agree with me?

God doesn't agree with you and that is what matters. You really should believe God over men and not be impressed by men with titles. Men are often mistaken.

[_gdemetz]

Tobin, it was God who revealed these things to the prophets, apostles, as well as myself and many other "Mormons." Do you sometimes feel like the Lone Ranger?

[_Tobin]

Tobin, it was God who revealed these things to the prophets, apostles, as well as myself and many other "Mormons." Do you sometimes feel like the Lone Ranger?

God revealed no such thing. It is men that have speculated they can be God when they should not. It is a great sin that Mormons are guilty of and they will have to repent. The scriptures teach no such thing and the Lord did not either. Mormons can teach false doctrine with the best of them - like polygamy and denying blacks the priesthood. This evil, blasphemous doctrine is just as bad and will disappear in time as well.

[_Drifting]

Tobin, it was God who revealed these things to the prophets, apostles, as well as myself and many other "Mormons." Do you sometimes feel like the Lone Ranger?

GD, how did (by what specific method) God reveal these things to you?

[_gdemetz]

When one becomes "born again,"(and born of the water and Spirit) he is baptized, and then receives the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost (just as it was done in the primitive church). He is then entitled to receive revelations and inspiration from the Holy Ghost depending on his worthiness and humility. This is how one can receive a sure witness for themselves. The grievous sin against the holy ghost, which Christ refers to, is to bear a false witness against the truth one has been revealed, which is the case with some of the apostates of the church.

[_Drifting]

When one becomes "born again,"(and born of the water and Spirit) he is baptized, and then receives the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost (just as it was done in the primitive church). He is then entitled to receive revelations and inspiration from the Holy Ghost depending on his worthiness and humility. This is how one can receive a sure witness for themselves. The grievous sin against the holy ghost, which Christ refers to, is to bear a false witness against the truth one has been revealed, which is the case with some of the apostates of the church.

Thanks, but you haven't answered the question.
Did you get a vision?
Did you hear a voice?
Did you get a feeling?
What specific method did God use to communicate his knowledge to you that meant you knew it was God 'revealing' his will to you?

[_Themis]

Tobin, it was God who revealed these things to the prophets, apostles, as well as myself and many other "Mormons." Do you sometimes feel like the Lone Ranger?

God revealed no such thing. It is men that have speculated they can be God when they should not. It is a great sin that Mormons are guilty of and they will have to repent. The scriptures teach no such thing and the Lord did not either. Mormons can teach false doctrine with the best of them - like polygamy and denying blacks the priesthood. This evil, blasphemous doctrine is just as bad and will disappear in time as well.

And how do you know this? Did God tell you? My understanding is that you only claim one visit from God. Did he reveal this then, or are you using other means to be so sure you are right. I notice you don't like my questions and are avoiding them. LOL

[_Themis]

When one becomes "born again,"(and born of the water and Spirit) he is baptized, and then receives the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost (just as it was done in the primitive church). He is then entitled to receive revelations and inspiration from the Holy Ghost depending on his worthiness and humility. This is how one can receive a sure witness for themselves. The grievous sin against the holy ghost, which Christ refers to, is to bear a false witness against the truth one has been revealed, which is the case with some of the apostates of the church.

Thanks, but you haven't answered the question.
Did you get a vision?
Did you hear a voice?
Did you get a feeling?
What specific method did God use to communicate his knowledge to you that meant you knew it was God 'revealing' his will to you?

Typically I think people don't like to reveal details since it will them appear not so divine. I am also not sure why people think the body cannot create amazing expereinces.

[_subgenius]

(all emphasis below is mine)
Acts 17:28 - "For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring."

John 10:34 - "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"
This was said of magistrates on account of the dignity and honor of their office, and it shows that the Hebrew word translated "god," אלהים ̀elohiym, in that place might be applied to man. Such a use of the word is, however, rare - but it has occurred quite indisputably.

Exodus 4:16 - "And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God."
Exodus 7:1 - "And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet."
The passage is an important one as illustrating the primary and essential characteristic of a prophet, he is the declarer of God's will and purpose

Psalm 82:6 - "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High."

“It is a ‘Mormon’ truism that is current among us and we all accept it, that as man is God once was and as God is man may become.” (Melvin J. Ballard – Mormon Apostle General Conf. address, April 6, 1921)
The Lord created you and me for the purpose of becoming Gods like himself. (BY Journal of Discourses 3:93)
God...is a personal Being, a holy and exalted man... (Mormon Doctrine, 1966 edition p. 250)

I consider it important and pertinent to emphasize the differences between becoming God, becoming a god, and becoming like God.

But let us look closer at the scriptures:

Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever

Obviously, to a degree, we are are "like" God, as He is included in "us"...but we lack one critical ingredient, the taste of the fruit from the tree of life, a taste that is indeed possible for us to have.

Revelation 2:7
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Now, realizing this is point of contention for many, it is seemingly so just because those who are so taken aback here only what they want to hear - mistakenly considering "like God" to be equal to "as God" or "God".

Ephesians 3:19 - "And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God."

and of course

1 John 3:2 - "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is."

This particular doctrine is not a stretch to most, but there has been such a social taboo put forth by the greater apostatized evangelicals - imho, because of their systematic desire and need to keep the congregation, as a whole, as spectators.