Glass & Steel in the Book of Mormon, why a problem?

[_gdemetz]

Those statements are not inconsistent. Many critics who believe in the Bible and thought it infallible, stated that steel was not even invented at the time of Nephi (around 600 BC). However, I pointed out that this same word was translated in the Bible at a time before Nephi (around 1000 BC). I also mentioned that there was an earlier record of steel from 1400 BC!

[_Drifting]

Those statements are not inconsistent. Many critics who believe in the Bible and thought it infallible, stated that steel was not even invented at the time of Nephi (around 600 BC). However, I pointed out that this same word was translated in the Bible at a time before Nephi (around 1000 BC). I also mentioned that there was an earlier record of steel from 1400 BC!

My point was that, within the space of 60 minutes, you went from not hearing of any critics condemning the use of the word 'steel' in the Bible to having direct knowledge that critics had been condemning to use of the word 'steel' in the Bible since 1400bc.

You did a lot of research in an hour...

[_gdemetz]

I meant that they were condemning the Book of Mormon, not the Bible, for having the word "steel" in it.

[_Drifting]

I meant that they were condemning the Book of Mormon, not the Bible, for having the word "steel" in it.

Sorry I'm now confused.
When you said people had been condemning the use of the word steel since 1400 bc in Africa did you mean the Book of Mormon or the Bible?

[_gdemetz]

"These critics are lashing out blindly in ignorance {against the Book of Mormon use of of the word steel by saying it was not even invented in those days} since the history of steel goes back to at least 1400 BC in East Africa." That is what I meant.

[_Drifting]

"These critics are lashing out blindly in ignorance {against the Book of Mormon use of of the word steel by saying it was not even invented in those days} since the history of steel goes back to at least 1400 BC in East Africa." That is what I meant.

Ahhh.....

So, steel was being produced in 1400 bc in Africa (That's only 900 years after the entire population of the planet was completely wiped out, with the exception of Noah's family).

So please can you quote the references that support your opinion that steel was being made in Africa fourteen hundred years before Christs birth? Thanks.

[_gdemetz]

Sure, if you check under Wikipedia encyclopedia under "ancient steel," you can find it there.

[Guest]

Sure, if you check under Wikipedia encyclopedia under "ancient steel," you can find it there.

Do you subscribe to all the facts on Wikipedia about Mormonism or do you pick and choose? Sorry, that was a bit sarcastic but it makes the point. If you are using Wikipedia as a reference then you have to accept it as a source for critics to use as well - and that ain't going to go well for your testimony...

So, which one bit are you going to throw under the bus?
a. That steel was produced circa 1400bc
b. A worldwide flood happened circa 2300bc

Or do you think the two things are compatible?

[_gdemetz]

In fact, according to them, the earliest record goes back to about 4000 years ago. No, I definitely don't accept them as a non biased resource. However, I see no reason for them to be biased regarding steel.

[_Drifting]

So, which one bit are you going to throw under the bus?
a. That steel was produced circa 1400bc
b. A worldwide flood happened circa 2300bc

Or do you think the two things are compatible?

Come on gd, the unanswered questions are staking up against you...