Are the FLDS Mormons...?

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Re: Are the FLDS Mormons...?

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Drifting wrote:This also from President Newsroom:

When referring to Church members, the term "Latter-day Saints" is preferred, though "Mormons" is acceptable.


It seems the Church PR and Marketing Department didn't get the memo in time to stop their ''I'm a Latter Day Saint'' TV Campaign from being given the less preferable nickname for members of the Church...

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Re: Are the FLDS Mormons...?

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subgenius wrote:“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” “Liahona,” “Book of Mormon,” and “Mormon” are trademarks of Intellectual Reserve, Inc.
http://www.LDS.org/legal/terms?lang=eng


:surprised: Now this is interesting, because I thought it was God's Church...
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Re: Are the FLDS Mormons...?

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subgenius wrote:
“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” “Liahona,” “Book of Mormon,” and “Mormon” are trademarks of Intellectual Reserve, Inc.
http://www.LDS.org/legal/terms?lang=eng


They may claim it but they will never try to enforce it since they do not really have the rights to those names, and know they would lose in a court of law.
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Re: Are the FLDS Mormons...?

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Drifting wrote:
Drifting wrote:Come on subby, tick the box...

Are the FLDS Mormons?

[ ] Yes
[ ] No

Tick which one you think is correct...


Bumpety bumpety bump bump bump...

you first, seems only fair
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Re: Are the FLDS Mormons...?

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Drifting wrote:On another thread I posted this:

So, Mormon's are Christians even though; they don't believe in the Christ of traditional Christianity; they believe God was once a man; that there are many many Gods with multiple wives; and that we can also become Gods over our own planets.

But, the FLDS aren't Mormon's even though they believe in exactly the same restoration of exactly the same Gospel by exactly the same Prophet with exactly the same scriptures as the LDS.


I thought I had it correct but gdemetz stated:

Of course, they are "Mormons" also, but they do not belong to The Church of Jesus Christ of LDS.


I thought The Church had categorically stated that the FLDS aren't Mormon's?


But subby, here's the original question that you have been unable to answer. Has the Church stated categorically that the FLDS aren't Mormons?
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Re: Are the FLDS Mormons...?

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Drifting wrote:
But subby, here's the original question that you have been unable to answer. Has the Church stated categorically that the FLDS aren't Mormons?

actually the original question is in the thread title
BUMP
still.....seems only fair
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Re: Are the FLDS Mormons...?

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subgenius wrote:
Drifting wrote:
But subby, here's the original question that you have been unable to answer. Has the Church stated categorically that the FLDS aren't Mormons?

actually the original question is in the thread title
BUMP
still.....seems only fair
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You want me to answer the question I posed you before you will answer the question I posed you. Got it. :rolleyes:
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Re: Are the FLDS Mormons...?

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The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS Church) is one of the largest Mormon fundamentalist denominations[3][4] and one of the largest organizations in the United States whose members practice polygamy.[5] The FLDS Church emerged in the early twentieth century when its founding members left The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). The split occurred largely because of the LDS Church's suspension of the practice of polygamy and its decision to excommunicate its members who would continue the practice.


Given that the FLDS actually maintain adherence to the original beliefs restored by Joseph Smith then they have the only legitimate claim on being called Mormons. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a splinter sect formed when Brigham Young led a group of followers into apostasy.
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Re: Are the FLDS Mormons...?

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Drifting wrote:
The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (FLDS Church) is one of the largest Mormon fundamentalist denominations[3][4] and one of the largest organizations in the United States whose members practice polygamy.[5] The FLDS Church emerged in the early twentieth century when its founding members left The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). The split occurred largely because of the LDS Church's suspension of the practice of polygamy and its decision to excommunicate its members who would continue the practice.


Given that the FLDS actually maintain adherence to the original beliefs restored by Joseph Smith then they have the only legitimate claim on being called Mormons. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a splinter sect formed when Brigham Young led a group of followers into apostasy.


Really, the FLDS represent true Brighamite Mormonism. They even believe in the Adam God doctrine. The RLDS, for a time, represented early Josephite Mormonism.

The mainstream LDS church's doctrine is really more influenced by thinkers like Talmage and McConkie, or at least was until recently.
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Re: Are the FLDS Mormons...?

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Thanks Buff,

Formerly known as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, this denomination regards itself as a reorganization of the church organized in 1830 by Joseph Smith, Jr., and it regards Joseph Smith III, the eldest surviving son of Smith Jr., to have been his legitimate successor. The church was "legally organized on April 6, 1830, in Fayette, New York".[19] The formal reorganization occurred on April 6, 1860, in Amboy, Illinois, as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, adding the word Reorganized to the church name in 1872.


Good grief, the outfit in Salt Lake City even pinched their name let alone the claim on being called Mormon...
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