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jpatterson wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:29 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:18 pm
jpatterson,

Other than the ‘power dynamic’ and completely ignoring Rosebud’s texts, what proof do you have of JD sexually harassing Rosebud?

- Doc
None that I'm prepared to show you. Proof exists, but I have zero reason to trust you with it.
You have nothing and you know it. Proof doesn't even exist anyway. ALl you'd have is evidence, if that. I'm guessing you have nothing. What are you holding onto? Text messages? Pictures? Emails? You are lying. Posting anything that could be said to be evidence of misconduct by Dehlin isn't going to be ruined because Doctor Cam saw it. He's not asking you to give him the actual documents and put them in his control. You don't have to trust him or anyone to show evidence of the claims you are making.

Jesus Christ, man. You are showing every sign of carrying out a vendetta with nothing but gossip and hearsay.
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If there was any shred of proof that John Dehlin had sexually harassed anyone, it would already have been posted by his enemies. All you have is allegations which are motivated by your falling out with John Dehlin over the Kristy Money affair and have nothing to do with sexual harassment.
Ah, another nothing burger!
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One of these days, I imagine there will be a Rosebud/Dehlin thread that doesn't make me hit my fremdschämen quota for the year.

Made it all the way to April this go-around.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:39 pm
James,

We’ve seen this same MO from Rosebud for years, and it has only eroded her credibility. Why do you think more of the same from you will have different results?
Because John usually buckles under the right kind of public pressure.

Look what Kwaku made him do in a matter of almost hours -- puts him on blast for his racist comment that he made like 6 months ago, then John sends out a "super sorry" apology.

John has called the allegations "baseless" for years. Now he's being forced to say more. Not just because of me, but because of others as well.

You're so vain, you probably think all of this is about you.
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dastardly stem wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:43 pm
Jesus Christ, man. You are showing every sign of carrying out a vendetta with nothing but gossip and hearsay.
I can confirm that I am not, in fact, Jesus Christ.
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jpatterson wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:47 pm
Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:39 pm
James,

We’ve seen this same MO from Rosebud for years, and it has only eroded her credibility. Why do you think more of the same from you will have different results?
Because John usually buckles under the right kind of public pressure.

Look what Kwaku made him do in a matter of almost hours -- puts him on blast for his racist comment that he made like 6 months ago, then John sends out a "super sorry" apology.

John has called the allegations "baseless" for years. Now he's being forced to say more. Not just because of me, but because of others as well.

You're so vain, you probably think all of this is about you.
Dude...you just spelled out what you need to do to get Dehlin to buckle under the pressure. Posting coy message of dislike for the man here isn't doing it. Might need to give Kwaku a call after all. If all you want to do is battle the guy, get with Kwaku. He actually seems to get under his skin some.
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jpatterson wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:47 pm
Because John usually buckles under the right kind of public pressure.

Look what Kwaku made him do in a matter of almost hours -- puts him on blast for his racist comment that he made like 6 months ago, then John sends out a "super sorry" apology.

John has called the allegations "baseless" for years. Now he's being forced to say more. Not just because of me, but because of others as well.

You're so vain, you probably think all of this is about you.
:lol:

Hey, it’s your time. Have you checked the number of people registered on this board? If you want to hang out where a few people may bother reading your empty nonsense, cool. Rosebud said she was doing it for history’s sake. You evidently have a lot of time on your hands and a terrible sense of how to invest it wisely.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:54 pm
Hey, it’s your time. Have you checked the number of people registered on this board? If you want to hang out where a few people may bother reading your empty nonsense, cool. Rosebud said she was doing it for history’s sake. You evidently have a lot of time on your hands and a terrible sense of how to invest it wisely.
LOL, seeing as though my main goal over the last few days was easily accomplished (thanks for that by the way, Bill!! You're like gorgeous putty in John's delicate hands) I'd say I've invested my time very wisely. I thought it would take twice as long.
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Thank you RFM and Bill Reel for bringing some clarity to the evidence. It’s incredible how many impartial eyeballs have gone over the same set of evidence, facts and context and concluded the same thing, ie bad judgment aside, not only was there was no direct evidence of sexual harassment, but that Rosebud appears to have acted in bad faith in presenting her case. The blackmail email and text messages tell a clear story, one that unfortunately doesn’t square in any universe with Rosebud’s basic claims. We may never know exactly what John said or did that crossed a line, but with the available evidence on the record, I trust Rosebud less than John.
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LOL, seeing as though my main goal over the last few days was easily accomplished (thanks for that by the way, Bill!! You're like gorgeous putty in John's delicate hands) I'd say I've invested my time very wisely. I thought it would take twice as long.
Keep telling yourself that, James. Joining delusional people in their delusions is an interesting choice.
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