gdemetz wrote:If you don't want to accept the KJV or other versions, including the JST, it's up to you,
I am accepting all versions of the Bible as a literature which have a big footprint on humanity.
YOU are the one who doesn't understand that the name of that human entity we are talking about is
different in different languages.
For example in German, there is no Elijah, no Elias. There is only Elia.
And this is true for a lot of language spoken around the world.
gdemetz wrote: but one day you may meet Elias and he can tell you exactly who he is.
1. I don't think I can meet somebody who is dead, or never existed.
2. Even so,
if such great and glorious vision would burst upon me -
©™® D&C 110 - , I wouldn't understand him. I don't speak Hebrew or Aramaic. Nor Greek. His black nametag may help.
gdemetz wrote:You seem to know a lot about languages
I am lucky enough to be born as a member of a small nation with weird martian language.
Three of us can be known from Manhattan Project
- Edward Teller (Hungarian: Teller Ede; January 15, 1908 – September 9, 2003) was a Hungarian-American theoretical physicist, known colloquially as "the father of the hydrogen bomb"
- Eugene Paul "E. P." Wigner (Hungarian Wigner Jenő Pál; November 17, 1902
– January 1, 1995) FRS was a Hungarian American theoretical physicist and mathematician
- Leó Szilárd (Hungarian: Szilárd Leó, February 11, 1898 – May 30) was an Austro-Hungarian physicist and inventorgdemetz wrote: so you tell me, how would the Greeks write Elias?
ηλιου or
ηλιας, depending on what Greek accent we use.
Why does it count, by the way? The Greek writing?
That person -
some old prophet named Elias (Your words!) - was not Greek, probably didn't speak Greek. He was an upright Israelite. His parents would never given name to their heir a stupid, weird greek-sounding word, without any meaning.
As You know (I hope You know), at that time the names have had meaning.
For example
Elijah's meaning is "Yah is my God".
You know who Elijah is, don't You?
Elijah /ɨˈlaɪdʒə/; also Elias /ɨˈlaɪ.əs/; Hebrew: אֱלִיָּהוּ /Eliyahu/; Arabic:إلياس, /Ilyās/ was a prophet in the Northern Kingdom of Israel during the reign of Ahab (9th century BC), according to the Books of Kings.
gdemetz wrote: Where did you get the information that Luther was Chris's mouthpiece?!?
The spirit told me. I would call it common sense.
Martin Luther was a German priest who sparked the Reformation.
- (without Reformation, there were no Mormonism, only the catholicism)
Luther studied philosophy and law before entering an Augustinian monastery in 1505. He was ordained two years later and continued his theological studies at the University of Wittenberg, where he became a professor of biblical studies.
- (OK, definitely, he was not an uneducated farmboy)
On a trip to Rome in 1510 he was shocked by the
corruption of the clergy and was later troubled by doubts centring on fear of divine retributive justice.
- (sounds familiar?)
He distributed his Ninety-five Theses (according to legend, Luther nailed the theses to the door of the castle church in Wittenberg); the theses
questioned Roman Catholic teaching and called for reform
- (sounds familiar?)
He translated the Bible into German; his superbly vigorous translation has long been regarded as the greatest landmark in the history of the German language
- (wasn't he God's mouthpiece, then?)
The German Bible (God's words in German...) reaches more than 100 million speakers.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei