Is the Church really growing?

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gdemetz wrote:That's not just the "Mormon" God; that's the Biblical God of Christianity also, and when that happens, many won't be around to see the increased growth percentage of the church!


You don't say! You imply that Jehovah is going to come down out of heaven and show his face and kill us wicked people, right? Well, I'm not afraid of Jehovah any more than I am of the shadow monster that lives under my bed at night. Jehovah has never been seen and never will be seen. He is a shadow. He is an idea made up by religious men who seek to have power over others.

The God of the Bible is a god of hatred towards those who refuse to follow his rules. There is no place in his heaven for those who refuse to follow his rules. And he constantly gets angry and kills people out of his anger. That pretty much sums up the god of the Bible: Hate & Murder.

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Church property/plant assets are certainly growing.
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gdemetz wrote:That's not just the "Mormon" God; that's the Biblical God of Christianity also, and when that happens, many won't be around to see the increased growth percentage of the church!


You keep saying 'God' when really you mean 'Gods' (who used to be men)
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Drifting wrote:You keep saying 'God' when really you mean 'Gods' (who used to be men)


And those men who supposedly are now gods are angry men. Just read the scriptures and see how easily they get angry. Heck, I could make one of them angry really easy and you'd think that he would strike me dead, but it never happens. I'm still alive.

And the Mormon scriptures teach that nothing offends this angry god more than when we are ungrateful and forget to thank him for our many blessings. Well, guess what? I'm grateful to myself and credit myself for my blessings.

There. Still here. No lightning, as yet. And there is no king's name in Facsimile No. 3 to the sadness of every Mormon believer left to wonder why there is no name. And every Mormon believer must wonder why the prophet doesn't discuss it. But the Mormon believer will say "All is well", but really deep down they have to seriously wonder. They have no answer. They can't answer the critics as we laugh at their leaders who pretend to be prophets!

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Shulem wrote:
And those men who supposedly are now gods are angry men. Just read the scriptures and see how easily they get angry. Heck, I could make one of them angry really easy and you'd think that he would strike me dead, but it never happens. I'm still alive.



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Yea, the guys in Sodom probably said the same thing. Well, at least until they got roasted!
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gdemetz wrote:Yea, the guys in Sodom probably said the same thing. Well, at least until they got roasted!



The historical existence of Sodom and Gomorrah is still in dispute by archaeologists, as little archaeological evidence has ever been found in the regions where they were supposedly situated.


What year (give or take) was Sodom supposedly destroyed?
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gdemetz wrote:Yea, the guys in Sodom probably said the same thing. Well, at least until they got roasted!


And it probably gives you some kind of pleasure thinking about how God roasted all those flaming homosexuals because they refused to change their sexual orientation. No bother, the whole story is just a story. And I doubt very much that anyone turned into a pillar of salt. It's just more folklore added to the Bible to scare people into following certain rules.

As I've said several times, the god of the Bible is a cruel demon. He loves murder and is full of himself. He loves blood cult rituals and the saying of secret chants and placing blood on various parts of the body including thumbs and toes. The god of the Bible is a cult idol from the Dark Ages of time. I despise him and his book.

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Drifting wrote:What year (give or take) was Sodom supposedly destroyed?


It's myth. It's a story. Once upon a time . . . .

. . . . and she turned into a pillar of salt.

That was back in the days before science. Men were still roaming about with swords and clubs trying to invent the scariest gods to woo their clans into submission. And look what we have today: Mormons actually believe those stories took place! The Mormon church enjoys stepping back into the Dark Ages and pretending in all kinds of things. They are a backwords people. When you see a Mormon missionary, just say, "No". Then ask him what is the name of the king written in the writing of Facsimile No. 3. He'll probably respond by saying he doesn't read Egyptian. Tell him that Joe Smith couldn't either.

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So much for the stone cut without hands.


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