How much $$ are General Authorities paid?

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subgenius wrote:
Drifting wrote:Sub, what are you basing your $70k a year speculation on?


admittedly, other people's testimony, but i have no reason to be too skeptical
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It would be more believable were the 'other people' more credible.
The only thing I remember reading is when Hinckley said (I'm going from memory) that GA's pay was commensurate with similar grade positions in industry. That would suggest to me, a stipend well in excess of $70k.
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Drifting wrote:It would be more believable were the 'other people' more credible.
The only thing I remember reading is when Hinckley said (I'm going from memory) that GA's pay was commensurate with similar grade positions in industry. That would suggest to me, a stipend well in excess of $70k.

well, if it "suggests" that to you then it surely must be true!....or false...either is possible given the circumstance.
you have no evidence to suggest that any of those people are not credible on this topic
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subgenius wrote:
Drifting wrote:It would be more believable were the 'other people' more credible.
The only thing I remember reading is when Hinckley said (I'm going from memory) that GA's pay was commensurate with similar grade positions in industry. That would suggest to me, a stipend well in excess of $70k.

well, if it "suggests" that to you then it surely must be true!....or false...either is possible given the circumstance.
you have no evidence to suggest that any of those people are not credible on this topic


I think Hinckley is marginally a more credible source, don't you?
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I don't know that we teach that Hinkley?

The one exec in the Brad Wilcox article was paid
290k a year. Which is where I based my 300k a year figure on. I reckon if they pay the execs that, then it stands to reason they pay the 15 that.
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kjones wrote:I was told by someone, who said he knew firsthand, that members of the 1st prez are paid 700k/year and each member of the Twelve gets 400k/year. This, to me, is a credible estimate.

But still, we are left to wonder, since the information is not disclosed. So who really knows? The men themselves, the auditors, and the person writing out the checks.

700k/year is a fair salary for men who manage a corporation as large as the church, and 400k/year is also fair for the Twelve who also manage the corporate behemoth.

Which makes me think that it would be better to separate the entities, i.e., separate the management of the business interests of the church from the management and direction of the ministerial interests. However, in a church that teaches there is no distinction between the temporal and the spiritual, maybe this is not easy to do.

However...I think, for example, that Prez Monson is a consummate businessman, manager, business visionary; he knows how to schmooze and all of his best friends, the people he hangs out with when he has a choice--these are all very rich guys like John Huntsman, Sr., or the NuSkin founders; but I cannot think of him as a prophet, seer and a revelator. On the other hand, I can think of Elders Packer and Holland as spiritual leaders, but I can't really think of them as managers of a 50 billion corporation.

It would seem better to me to separate the two entities, pay the guys who run the biz end of things comparable salaries, or maybe a little less than they'd get in the world; and the spiritual leaders--well, pay them a living allowance, maybe what CES people are paid.


Can you imagine the meeting?

Okay we're going to need 6 of you to be business leaders at 400k a year and 6 of you to be religious leaders at 35k a year.
Hands up for volunteers for the theology jobs...
*cough...shuffle...ahem...tumbleweed...*
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I've decided I don't care what they get paid and now I'm sorry made this post. But then, maybe getting it off my chest is what has made it possible for me now not to care about it. If there are abuses (and I don't know whether there are or aren't), I'll let God worry about it....
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Then do us a favor. Contribute your tithes to a charity that gives a reporting of where they go..... Or conversely just make a bale of the cash and light it on fire.
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kjones wrote:I've decided I don't care what they get paid and now I'm sorry made this post. But then, maybe getting it off my chest is what has made it possible for me now not to care about it. If there are abuses (and I don't know whether there are or aren't), I'll let God worry about it....


Keep that in mind next time you are cleaning the Chapel for free alongside an out of work janitor...

Abdicating responsibility to God for the consequences of your choices is a little bit cowardly in my opinion. If you pay your tithing then get behind where the money goes, support the mall etc. If you don't like how the Church uses funds, stop giving it money.
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kjones wrote:I've decided I don't care what they get paid and now I'm sorry made this post. But then, maybe getting it off my chest is what has made it possible for me now not to care about it. If there are abuses (and I don't know whether there are or aren't), I'll let God worry about it....


Hello kjones,

I agree with your decision. The purpose of tithing is to build and maintain there churches and temples. What if the 70's do pocket some of the money why does it matter? Suppose that if they didn't they would be able to build another temple somewhere. If you have a temple to go to for all of the various ceremonies in order to obtain your future exaltation why worry about them having one less temple.
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