whyme, please make MMM acceptable w/context

[_3sheets2thewind]

why me, on 17 July 2012 - 07:48 AM, said:
Of course, MMM is a little off the topic. But on the other hand, members do leave the church over it because they read critic interpretations and become disappointed with that part of LDS history. This may not be the only reason, but it can be one reason. The point is that when we look at church history in context, it helps with our understanding about what was going on during that time in church history.

Whyme, what context makes the MMM acceptable?

[_Tobin]

why me, on 17 July 2012 - 07:48 AM, said:
Of course, MMM is a little off the topic. But on the other hand, members do leave the church over it because they read critic interpretations and become disappointed with that part of LDS history. This may not be the only reason, but it can be one reason. The point is that when we look at church history in context, it helps with our understanding about what was going on during that time in church history.

Whyme, what context makes the MMM acceptable?

I don't think he is saying is or ever would be acceptable, just understandable.

[_Albion]

On what grounds is the slaughter of innocents "understandable" then....especially by those claiming to be christians? Under what circumstances is it acceptable to induce those fearful for their lives to surrender under a promise of safety and then to murder all those over the age of five or so with guns and clubs..to strip the bodies and leave them to the elements while stealing all their possessions...and then to lie about it by accusing local Indians of the crime?

[_Themis]

On what grounds is the slaughter of innocents "understandable" then....especially by those claiming to be christians? Under what circumstances is it acceptable to induce those fearful for their lives to surrender under a promise of safety and then to murder all those over the age of five or so with guns and clubs..to strip the bodies and leave them to the elements while stealing all their possessions...and then to lie about it by accusing local Indians of the crime?

Very few if any leave for this issue alone. It's a side issue, and just a distraction some like whyme like to do to avoid the real issues that cause people to stop believing LDS truth claims.

[_son of Ishmael]

On what grounds is the slaughter of innocents "understandable" then....especially by those claiming to be christians? Under what circumstances is it acceptable to induce those fearful for their lives to surrender under a promise of safety and then to murder all those over the age of five or so with guns and clubs..to strip the bodies and leave them to the elements while stealing all their possessions...and then to lie about it by accusing local Indians of the crime?

Very few if any leave for this issue alone. It's a side issue, and just a distraction some like whyme like to do to avoid the real issues that cause people to stop believing LDS truth claims.

Agreed. The MMM was not even on my list of reasons why I left the church. Just like the stone in a hat. There are so many other reasons to leave.

[_Tobin]

On what grounds is the slaughter of innocents "understandable" then....especially by those claiming to be christians? Under what circumstances is it acceptable to induce those fearful for their lives to surrender under a promise of safety and then to murder all those over the age of five or so with guns and clubs..to strip the bodies and leave them to the elements while stealing all their possessions...and then to lie about it by accusing local Indians of the crime?

Well, I can't help you Albion. Probably you should try to understand the motivations behind why people do certain things, take the crusades for example. That doesn't seem to be a very Christian way to behave, but I'm sure they had their reasons.

[_Albion]

But we're not talking about the crusades we're talking about something that you suggested could be "understandable".

[_Tobin]

But we're not talking about the crusades we're talking about something that you suggested could be "understandable".

And it can be understood. I'm sure they had reasons and motives. People usually do. Unless you are saying elves and dwarves did it.

[_Albion]

I suppose Jack the Ripper had "reasons and motives". I just flat out reject them as any kind of mitigating circumstance. It was an evil premeditated act committed by calculating people without compassion or cause. That they knew their actions were despicable is supported by their subsequent cover up and lies that allowed one man to carry the can for all of them. They were no different from the 9/ll terrorists and the Oklahoma City bombers.

[_subgenius]

why me, on 17 July 2012 - 07:48 AM, said:
Of course, MMM is a little off the topic. But on the other hand, members do leave the church over it because they read critic interpretations and become disappointed with that part of LDS history. This may not be the only reason, but it can be one reason. The point is that when we look at church history in context, it helps with our understanding about what was going on during that time in church history.

Whyme, what context makes the MMM acceptable?

more importantly what naïve soul left the church because of this board?...i laughed out my nose when i read that fantasy.
and where are these "critic interpretations" ? is that a thread on the telestial forum?