Bible verse by verse

[_LittleNipper]

Genesis 24:35-67 The servant of Abraham begins to tell the story of his master and how Sarah had a son when she was 90... And now Abraham wants a wife for his son. He then says that God choose Rebekah to be Isaac's wife. Laban agrees and the servant presents gifts to Rebekah, her brother, and Bethuel her mother. The family wants to wait 10 days but the servant wishes to leave right away. Laban asks Rebekah if she wants to go and she says yes. Rebekah and her nurse are to go with the servant and his men.
Isaac is out by the well of the "Living One my Beholder" in the field, in meditation. Isaac sees the caravan coming and sees Rebekah. She sees Isaac and asks the servant who this man is and he informs her that it 's Isaac. Rebekah covers her face. The servant tells Isaac the story. Isaac takes Rebekah to his mother's tent and marries her and falls in love with Rebekah.

35 and Jehovah hath blessed my lord exceedingly, and he is great; and He giveth to him flock, and herd, and silver, and gold, and men-servants, and maid-servants, and camels, and asses;

36 and Sarah, my lord's wife, beareth a son to my lord, after she hath been aged, and he giveth to him all that he hath.

37 `And my lord causeth me to swear, saying, Thou dost not take a wife to my son from the daughters of the Canaanite, in whose land I am dwelling.

38 If not -- unto the house of my father thou dost go, and unto my family, and thou hast taken a wife for my son.

39 `And I say unto my lord, It may be the woman doth not come after me;

40 and he saith unto me, Jehovah, before whom I have walked habitually, doth send His messenger with thee, and hath prospered thy way, and thou hast taken a wife for my son from my family, and from the house of my father;

41 then art thou acquitted from my oath, when thou comest unto my family, and if they give not [one] to thee; then thou hast been acquitted from my oath.

42 `And I come to-day unto the fountain, and I say, Jehovah, God of my lord Abraham, if Thou art, I pray Thee, making prosperous my way in which I am going --

43 (lo, I am standing by the fountain of water), then the virgin who is coming out to draw, and I have said unto her, Let me drink, I pray thee, a little water from thy pitcher,

44 and she hath said unto me, Both drink thou, and also for thy camels I draw -- she is the woman whom Jehovah hath decided for my lord's son.

45 `Before I finish speaking unto my heart, then lo, Rebekah is coming out, and her pitcher on her shoulder, and she goeth down to the fountain, and draweth; and I say unto her, Let me drink, I pray thee,

46 and she hasteth and letteth down her pitcher from off her and saith, Drink, and thy camels also I water; and I drink, and the camels also she hath watered.

47 `And I ask her, and say, Whose daughter [art] thou? and she saith, Daughter of Bethuel, son of Nahor, whom Milcah hath borne to him, and I put the ring on her nose, and the bracelets on her hands,

48 and I bow, and do obeisance before Jehovah, and I bless Jehovah, God of my lord Abraham, who hath led me in the true way to receive the daughter of my lord's brother for his son.

49 `And now, if ye are dealing kindly and truly with my lord, declare to me; and if not, declare to me; and I turn unto the right or unto the left.'

50 And Laban answereth -- Bethuel also -- and they say, `The thing hath gone out from Jehovah; we are not able to speak unto thee bad or good;

51 lo, Rebekah [is] before thee, take and go, and she is a wife to thy lord's son, as Jehovah hath spoken.'

52 And it cometh to pass, when the servant of Abraham hath heard their words, that he boweth himself towards the earth before Jehovah;

53 and the servant taketh out vessels of silver, and vessels of gold, and garments, and giveth to Rebekah; precious things also he hath given to her brother and to her mother.

54 And they eat and drink, he and the men who [are] with him, and lodge all night; and they rise in the morning, and he saith, `Send me to my lord;'

55 and her brother saith -- her mother also -- `Let the young person abide with us a week or ten days, afterwards doth she go.'

56 And he saith unto them, `Do not delay me, seeing Jehovah hath prospered my way; send me away, and I go to my lord;'

57 and they say, `Let us call for the young person, and ask at her mouth;'

58 and they call for Rebekah, and say unto her, `Dost thou go with this man?' and she saith, `I go.'

59 And they send away Rebekah their sister, and her nurse, and Abraham's servant, and his men;

60 and they bless Rebekah, and say to her, `Thou [art] our sister; become thou thousands of myriads, and thy seed doth possess the gate of those hating it.'

61 And Rebekah and her young women arise, and ride on the camels, and go after the man; and the servant taketh Rebekah and goeth.

62 And Isaac hath come in from the entrance of the Well of the Living One, my Beholder; and he is dwelling in the land of the south,

63 and Isaac goeth out to meditate in the field, at the turning of the evening, and he lifteth up his eyes, and looketh, and lo, camels are coming.

64 And Rebekah lifteth up her eyes, and seeth Isaac, and alighteth from off the camel;

65 and she saith unto the servant, `Who [is] this man who is walking in the field to meet us?' and the servant saith, `It [is] my lord;' and she taketh the veil, and covereth herself.

66 And the servant recounteth to Isaac all the things that he hath done,

67 and Isaac bringeth her in unto the tent of Sarah his mother, and he taketh Rebekah, and she becometh his wife, and he loveth her, and Isaac is comforted after [the death of] his mother.

[_Drifting]

The Holy Spirit has shown to me that the Book of Mormon and Mormonism contradicts what the Bible says. And that the Bible is God's Word revealed in Christ. You have said that you accept the Book of Mormon but at the expense of rejecting the Bible. You reject the Word. You apply your knowledge just as did Adam & Eve. They were wrong.

Actually I said that I didn't believe the Book of Mormon was what it claimed to be.
(the word 'not' came out as 'nor' in error).

I predicted correctly that you would tell me the Holy Spirit that testified to me was the wrong 'Holy Spirit'.

Actually, I didn't. I did say that the Holy Spirit showed to me that the Book of Mormon is contrary to the Bible. The Holy Spirit is God. The Holy Spirit told the prophets what to write down in the Bible and what not to include. You tell me the Holy Spirit tells you the Book of Mormon is correct and the Bible isn't. God doesn't lie or contradict Himself. Something clearly is wrong...

You don't appear to be reading what I'm posting...

[_LittleNipper]

I predicted correctly that you would tell me the Holy Spirit that testified to me was the wrong 'Holy Spirit'.

Actually, I didn't. I did say that the Holy Spirit showed to me that the Book of Mormon is contrary to the Bible. The Holy Spirit is God. The Holy Spirit told the prophets what to write down in the Bible and what not to include. You tell me the Holy Spirit tells you the Book of Mormon is correct and the Bible isn't. God doesn't lie or contradict Himself. Something clearly is wrong...

You don't appear to be reading what I'm posting...[/quote]
You don't seem to know what you are posting. I read it all but decided to answer only part of it. I don't understand how you can accept the Book of Mormon in any respect other than a 19th century piece of American literature. One doesn't need the Holy Spirit for that determination.

[_gdemetz]

One certainly DOES need the Holy Spirit, or otherwise he may become spiritually blind and not realize that the Book of Mormon is what it claims to be, and what all it's witnesses testifies that it was! Don't be afraid of the Holy Spirit. You might learn something!

[_LittleNipper]

One certainly DOES need the Holy Spirit, or otherwise he may become spiritually blind and not realize that the Book of Mormon is what it claims to be, and what all it's witnesses testifies that it was! Don't be afraid of the Holy Spirit. You might learn something!

And the Holy Spirit will show the interested party that the Book of Mormon conflicts with the Bible. And as such (the Book of Mormon) cannot be accepted as original scripture. It isn't that the Bible has been compromised (as those who want to exalt the Book of Mormon claim) --- it is that the Book of Mormon is a fabrication...

[_LittleNipper]

Genesis 25:1-34 Abraham who was so concerned about being old takes another wife. She must have been a young one, because she bears Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah. But Abraham gave all he had to Isaac. Abraham gave all the children he begat by concubines gifts (while he yet lived) and sent them away from Isaac. Abraham lives 175 years, dies and is buried with Sarah. The children of Ishmael are Nebajoth, and Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam, and Mishma, and Dumah, and Massa, Hadar, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah...
Isaac marries Rebekah when he is 40. Rebekah as a pair of twins who seemed at odds even while in the womb. The first to arrive was Esau and the second was Jacob. Esau was a muscular hairy beast and Jacob was a momma's boy. Esau was a bit of a ham and jokingly gives up his legal birthright for a bowl of lentil soup.
King James Version (KJV)

1 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah.

2 And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah.

3 And Jokshan begat Sheba, and Dedan. And the sons of Dedan were Asshurim, and Letushim, and Leummim.

4 And the sons of Midian; Ephah, and Epher, and Hanoch, and Abidah, and Eldaah. All these were the children of Keturah.

5 And Abraham gave all that he had unto Isaac.

6 But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country.

7 And these are the days of the years of Abraham's life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years.

8 Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good old age, an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people.

9 And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which is before Mamre;

10 The field which Abraham purchased of the sons of Heth: there was Abraham buried, and Sarah his wife.

11 And it came to pass after the death of Abraham, that God blessed his son Isaac; and Isaac dwelt by the well Lahairoi.

12 Now these are the generations of Ishmael, Abraham's son, whom Hagar the Egyptian, Sarah's handmaid, bare unto Abraham:

13 And these are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: the firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth; and Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam,

14 And Mishma, and Dumah, and Massa,

15 Hadar, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah:

16 These are the sons of Ishmael, and these are their names, by their towns, and by their castles; twelve princes according to their nations.

17 And these are the years of the life of Ishmael, an hundred and thirty and seven years: and he gave up the ghost and died; and was gathered unto his people.

18 And they dwelt from Havilah unto Shur, that is before Egypt, as thou goest toward Assyria: and he died in the presence of all his brethren.

19 And these are the generations of Isaac, Abraham's son: Abraham begat Isaac:

20 And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah to wife, the daughter of Bethuel the Syrian of Padanaram, the sister to Laban the Syrian.

21 And Isaac intreated the Lord for his wife, because she was barren: and the Lord was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.

22 And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to enquire of the Lord.

23 And the Lord said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

24 And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

25 And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

26 And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

27 And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

28 And Isaac loved Esau, because he did eat of his venison: but Rebekah loved Jacob.

29 And Jacob sod pottage: and Esau came from the field, and he was faint:

30 And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage; for I am faint: therefore was his name called Edom.

31 And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright.

32 And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me?

33 And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob.

34 Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised his birthright.

[_gdemetz]

Nipper, it only conflicts with the Bible in the minds of those who have a very warped interpretation of the Bible!!!

[_LittleNipper]

Nipper, it only conflicts with the Bible in the minds of those who have a very warped interpretation of the Bible!!!

Or a warped trust in the Book of Mormon?

[_gdemetz]

The Book of Mormon has many credible witnesses and evidences just as the Bible does. You are just not looking at the whole picture objectively!

[_Albion]

The credibility of the Book of Mormon "witnesses" is debatable but I would be interested in those credible evidences for the Book of Mormon.