Themis wrote:I think the main problem is that the claimed event wasn't brought up by Joseph and Oliver until well after the event was supposed to have taken place
If I recall correctly this event was coincidently 'remembered' at a time when Joseph needed a credibility boost as leader. A bit like the First Vision, which didn't get much air play until decades after it supposedly happened, again coincidently when Joseph's tenure as leader was looking tarnished.
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Themis wrote:I think the main problem is that the claimed event wasn't brought up by Joseph and Oliver until well after the event was supposed to have taken place
If I recall correctly this event was coincidently 'remembered' at a time when Joseph needed a credibility boost as leader. A bit like the First Vision, which didn't get much air play until decades after it supposedly happened, again coincidently when Joseph's tenure as leader was looking tarnished.
Joseph never had a problem making things up. Kinda sounds like a relative I know.
Albion wrote:Evidence that Moses and Elijah had the priesthood.
So, how do you explain the miracles they performed in the name of God. Were they just good magicians?
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Albion wrote:Evidence that Moses and Elijah had the priesthood.
So, how do you explain the miracles they performed in the name of God. Were they just good magicians?
How do you know they actually happened?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
Drifting wrote:How do you know they actually happened?
Well, I guess you'll have to decide if you believe the scriptures or not. I think we know where you stand on them.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Drifting wrote:How do you know they actually happened?
Well, I guess you'll have to decide if you believe the scriptures or not. I think we know where you stand on them.
Which religions scriptures?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Come on, which religions scriptures do you accept as valid and why?
“We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually.” Keith McMullin - Counsellor in Presiding Bishopric
"One, two, three...let's go shopping!" Thomas S Monson - Prophet, Seer, Revelator
