Adam, first man circa 4,000 bc....?

[_Franktalk]

I never claimed proof in terms of dark matter.

I said it was a theory.

So proof is required for us and no proof is required by you. I guess in your world there are no scales. Just me me me me me me me me, I think you get the picture.

[_SteelHead]

I never demanded proof...... I asked for evidence. There is better evidence for dark matter than for a global flood event in the last 5k years.

[_Themis]

this is not an accurate statement, they have only been "proven" by way of assumption...and the other methods used to "verify" are rather incestuous and require the same assumptions. One can not prove that an inch exists by showing a 2 rulers and a tape measure.

This is incorrect. Dendrochronology and carbon 14 dating are good for similar time frames and are totally different methods. The mid Atlantic ridge has about three different dating methods that have been employed. Reality is that this is a made up apologetic by young earth creationists with an agenda. Again go talk to the real scientists who use this methods.

i have looked at the actual science, and unlike you, i have looked at the science that does not always agree with me...i suggest you try it on this issue.
But hey, show me anything that is actual "proof" that something, anything, existed 10 million years ago, with no assumptions nor "a probably" involved.

I see the absolutism game coming out again. Unfortunate. Again for Noah I have given you a wide range, but I know you will not even try.

[_Themis]

I never claimed proof in terms of dark matter.

I said it was a theory.

I love how frank always goes to the boundary areas of current science in an attempt to put all scientific knowledge in the same boat.

There is better evidence for dark matter than for a global flood event in the last 5k years.

yup

[_LittleNipper]

I dunno. The unbroken record of forest fires (upright burned trees) in Yellowstone for 20,000 plus years and the coral record are pretty convincing. There's much more. However, compare to the Book of Mormon horses issue for which there is merely no evidence against, just an interpretation of the absence of evidence (which is not science).

I can imagine that if an asteroid hit our planet, trees would burn before the Flood. Coral has been shown to grow very fast under certain conditions. Man, according to the Bible also lived longer under certain conditions.

[_SteelHead]

There is equal evidence for Frodo having thrown the one ring into the fires of Mordor as there is for men living to 900 years of age 5K+ years ago.

[_Drifting]

I dunno. The unbroken record of forest fires (upright burned trees) in Yellowstone for 20,000 plus years and the coral record are pretty convincing. There's much more. However, compare to the Book of Mormon horses issue for which there is merely no evidence against, just an interpretation of the absence of evidence (which is not science).

I can imagine that if an asteroid hit our planet, trees would burn before the Flood. Coral has been shown to grow very fast under certain conditions. Man, according to the Bible also lived longer under certain conditions.

Key word...

[_Franktalk]

I love how frank always goes to the boundary areas of current science in an attempt to put all scientific knowledge in the same boat.

So science has some areas which are solid and others which are not. Is that what you are saying? Is there a ranking system for theories? Like maybe we are pretty sure of this one +9 or not so much +2.5. Maybe we could all vote and hold up cards like judges. Or do you make it up as you go along. Much like what you do on these boards. I am sure many in the science camp would disagree with you.

http://laddertheory.com/

I guess theories in general could be classified in some form of the ladder theory. The ladder theory speaks of relationships between men and women. But we could say that some theories catch the eye of scientist and they so want the theory to be true. Check it out. You may see the relationship.

[_LittleNipper]

I can imagine that if an asteroid hit our planet, trees would burn before the Flood. Coral has been shown to grow very fast under certain conditions. Man, according to the Bible also lived longer under certain conditions.

Key word...

Well, some can IMAGINE there is no God. They aren't dreaming either.

[_PrickKicker]

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace

You, you may say
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world

You, you may say
I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will live as one

PURE WORSHIP!!!

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