Anthon Transcript

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Nice how you call others to meet a standard that you yourself will not meet.

You can claim to worship Jesus and what ever false idols you choose to. In the end Exu is a reality you can not avoid.
It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener at war.

Some of us, on the other hand, actually prefer a religion that includes some type of correlation with reality.
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bbbinmd wrote:This invitation to spend 2 hours with me ...

Up to now, I had 5 minute for lunatics - in general.
Would it be enough?

(My 5 minute is worth of 20 page reading in Hungarian, 10-12 in English or German - not something to skim, something to apprehend.)
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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Thank you bbbinmd for posting this information. I found you research and insights very fascinating. Unfortunate that some choose to mock. Despite that, please post any updates you may have in the future.
Then saith He to Thomas... be not faithless, but believing. - John 20:27
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bbbinmd wrote:. . . The AT script was derived from Egyptian hieroglyphics but was NOT written in the oral language of Egyptian, but was based on the oral grammatical structure of the Hebrew language. It is NOT an alphabetic script (with sounds that combine to form words) but is a logographic script which carries meaning--thus the message is NOT in the specific sound of a particular word, but in the meaning that is associated with it. There are only 20 basic characters, but they are combined in many different arrangements to vary the specific meaning of each character. The meaning of each of the 20 characters carries through the Hebrew spoken language, the Egyptian hieroglyphic script and the English translation.
The script is a form of shorthand, but all forms of shorthand can use only a few basic shapes (curves, lines of various lengths and directions, etc.). Thus all modern shorthand systems will have some similarities to some of the the 20 basic CT characters.
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The first part of the message was written by Mormon (the first 4 lines) while the last part (3 lines) was written by Moroni.
Its content is similar to the Title Page of the Book of Mormon and it was that similarity that led me to the translation. But, the CT has MUCH more content than the Title Page of the Book of Mormon. As it was written and later copied by Joseph Smith Jr, the CT was intended by Mormon and Moroni to be the Title Page of the Book of Mormon as Mormon originally arranged it. The translation of the CT version of the Title Page was lost when Harris lost 216 pages of the Book of Mormon manuscript.
One can see some of my work on that translation on the web site reocities.com/bbbinil.
That web site is old and the translation shown at that site will be slightly different from the way I would word it today, based on new insights received over the last 10 years. But the basic message has not changed.
The CT is a testimony to the Jews that Jesus is the Christ, the son of God and that it was a gift by the power of God to his covenant people.
Address any personal questions to bbbinmd@juno.com
Blair Bryant

Hi Blair!!
You and Wade Brown made a real contribution to CT studies back in 2001 when you each independently discovered that the CT consists of at least two large chiasms.
I am not sure, however, why there would be two Title Pages (even if one was lost with the 116 pages). Nor am I clear on why you think that the CT has only 20 basic characters and is logographic. What is more, your translation does not seem to reflect the chiastic structure which you and Brown have discerned. Finally, your translation seems repetitious and banal at best. I have provided a sample analysis below for those who are interested:
Bob

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I'm sorry. Apparently the CT "Caractors" are not a recognized font here. I'll have to do a scan and create photos.

B. BRYANT TRANSLATIONS FOR SOME GROUPS OF AT “CARACTORS”
A20-22 . . . for the tribe of Israel. This is a marvelous gift from the Lord for His Covenant People. (chiastic line A4)
B11-14 It is an account of a people of Israel which were preserved by the Lord and was taken from sacred engravings. (chiastic line A6b)
D8-10 . . . accounts from sacred engravings from Jesus, a marvelous gift . . . from the Lord for His Covenant People. (chiastic line A4’)
E20-23 It was translated of Christ to be inspired scriptures for Israel. This marvelous gift from the Lord for His Covenant People, . . . (chiastic line B3b)
F18-21 . . . this account on sacred engravings is a marvelous gift by the power of the Lord for His Covenant People. (chiastic line B6)
G47-49 . . . in sacred engravings. It is a marvelous gift from the Lord for His Covenatn People. (chiastic line B6’)
F5-8 . . . of the Eternal God, by commandment, and is for all the tribes of Israel. (chiastic line B4)
F37,G1-6 Mormon was commanded by The Spirit to include the record of trhe Christ from the plates of King Mosiah from the Jaredite language, . . . (chiastic line B9b)
G24-27 . . . of the tribes of Israel. The records on these plates are of The Spirit of prophecy . . . (chiastic line B9’)
A3-12 . . . abridged from two records preserved by Mormon: Sacred engravings, transcribed at the direction of Christ. These plates of testimony are a gift to all mankind from the Lord. They were taken from the testimony plates of . . . . (chiastic line A2)
B15-20 It is to be prepared by the son of Mormon. These Christ-inspired prophetic scriptures for Israel have been placed in the Nephite record as inspired scriptures of the Christ by commandment, . . is a marvelous gift from the Lord for all mankind. (chiastic line A7)
D11-13 . . . by Mormon. The Nephite record was inspired by the Holy Spirit . . .(chiastic line A3’)
D14-19 . . . to include the account of the people from Ether’s writings for the descendants of Laman. It is for all Covenant Peoples, especially the Jews, and was taken from . . . (chiastic line A2’)
B8-14 . . . a history of the Lamanite and Nephite peoples. It is an account of a people of Israel which were preserved by the Lord and was taken from sacred engravings. (chiastic line A6)
C23-25,D1-3 . . . of Laman and Nephi. The Jaredite plates of promise . . .(chiastic line A6’)
E6-9 . . . by the strongest commandment and power. It is a record of another people and is Christ-inspired scriptures for Israel . . . (chiastic line B2)
A23-26,B1-6 It is a gift from Christ for the tribe of Israel and is Christ-inspired prophetic scripture for Israel. The record of the people of Nephi is from Christ-inspired engravings. It is scripture inspired of Christ for Israel and the Jews. These scriptures were prepared by commandment of Christ, (chiastic line A5)
D4-7 . . . are included in the account for the people of Israel and were translated of Christ and preserved for His Covenant People. They are written . . . (chiastic line A5’)
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