Bible verse by verse

[_ludwigm]

I think the movie is Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.

Yes.

I didn't know then the name of James Stewart, but I remember the man that type...

[_subgenius]

...(snip)...It's called a filibuster. A tactic used by minorities in our Senate to prevent legislation from passing that they don't favor. It's still done. It takes a 60% majority of votes to override it.

It's dumb.

why is it dumb? you mean dumb like when the Democrats tried to block passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act?...

or is it dumb because you are against the minority being able to influence legislation? or are you just a big fan of cloture?
besides, take out filibuster and one can merely stand alone against the unanimous consent to business - which forces quorum calls, motions to adjourn, voting on objections, etc..the filibuster is the "smarter" method....the others are "dumb".

i can think of nothing more dangerous than a fast moving federal government

[_Quasimodo]

why is it dumb? you mean dumb like when the Democrats tried to block passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act?...

or is it dumb because you are against the minority being able to influence legislation? or are you just a big fan of cloture?
besides, take out filibuster and one can merely stand alone against the unanimous consent to business - which forces quorum calls, motions to adjourn, voting on objections, etc..the filibuster is the "smarter" method....the others are "dumb".

i can think of nothing more dangerous than a fast moving federal government

You well know that it is being overly used to stifle any legislative progress in an effort to paint the Democratic administration in a bad light. Fortunately, it's not working very well in public opinion and the conservatives are going to pay a heavy price for it. What's bad about a simple majority rule? Every modern government in the world works this way.

You're being disingenuous.

[_consiglieri]

If he can lead just one of you from the evils of Mormonism and into what he thinks is the true light of God by posting the entire Bible, it will all be worth it.

I will convert if it makes Nipper stop this thread.

[_Quasimodo]

If he can lead just one of you from the evils of Mormonism and into what he thinks is the true light of God by posting the entire Bible, it will all be worth it.

I will convert if it makes Nipper stop this thread.

I wonder if we are not encouraging him? He seems to think that the number of people reading his thread is a justification.

If you convert he will feel triumphant and continue until he gets the other six million.

[_Tobin]

No doubt LittleNipper will make consig mindlessly spew quotes from the Bible into this thread as part of his conversion process.

[_LittleNipper]

Numbers 3:1-51 This is the family line of Aaron and Moses as it was recorded when the Lord spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai:

Stop the presses, my Little Nipper.

Aaron is in the Book of Mormon.

And Moses is mentioned, too.

We have a winnah!

Jesus is mentioned in Ben Hur, but what exactly does that prove?

[_LittleNipper]

In other words, When believers come to heaven they will not marry and they will not be married. They will be just like the angels --- unmarried.

You missed the point.

Spectacularly, I might add.

Do you even remember what the point was?

I think you missed the point. No one is married once one dies and goes to heaven. Everyone in heaven will be as the angels. Clearly someone is wrong --- and it isn't Jesus... And no, there is no way around what the Bible clearly states.

[_LittleNipper]

Numbers 4:1-49 The Lord says to take a census of the Kohathite branch of the Levites by their clans and families. Count all the men from thirty to fifty years of age who come to serve in the work at the tent of meeting.This is the work of the Kohathites at the tent of meeting: the care of the most holy things. When the camp is to move, Aaron and his sons are to go in and take down the shielding curtain and put it over the ark of the covenant law. Then they are to cover the curtain with a durable leather, spread a cloth of solid blue over that and put the poles in place. Over the table of the Presence they are to spread a blue cloth and put on it the plates, dishes and bowls, and the jars for drink offerings; the bread that is continually there is to remain on it. They are to spread a scarlet cloth over them, cover that with the durable leather and put the poles in place.They are to take a blue cloth and cover the lampstand that is for light, together with its lamps, its wick trimmers and trays, and all its jars for the olive oil used to supply it. Then they are to wrap it and all its accessories in a covering of the durable leather and put it on a carrying frame. Over the gold altar they are to spread a blue cloth and cover that with the durable leather and put the poles in place. They are to take all the articles used for ministering in the sanctuary, wrap them in a blue cloth, cover that with the durable leather and put them on a carrying frame.They are to remove the ashes from the bronze altar and spread a purple cloth over it. Then they are to place on it all the utensils used for ministering at the altar, including the firepans, meat forks, shovels and sprinkling bowls. Over it they are to spread a covering of the durable leather and put the poles in place. After Aaron and his sons have finished covering the holy furnishings and all the holy articles, and when the camp is ready to move, only then are the Kohathites to come and do the carrying. But they must not touch the holy things or they will die. The Kohathites are to carry those things that are in the tent of meeting.

Eleazar son of Aaron, the priest, is to have charge of the oil for the light, the fragrant incense, the regular grain offering and the anointing oil. He is to be in charge of the entire tabernacle and everything in it, including its holy furnishings and articles.See that the Kohathite tribal clans are not destroyed from among the Levites. So that they may live and not die when they come near the most holy things, do this for them: Aaron and his sons are to go into the sanctuary and assign to each man his work and what he is to carry. The Kohathites must not go in to look at the holy things, even for a moment, they will die.

The Lord says to take a census of the Gershonites by their families and clans. Count all the men from thirty to fifty years of age who come to serve in the work at the tent of meeting. This is the service of the Gershonite clans in their carrying and their other work: They are to carry the curtains of the tabernacle, that is, the tent of meeting, its covering and its outer covering of durable leather, the curtains for the entrance to the tent of meeting, the curtains of the courtyard surrounding the tabernacle and altar, the curtain for the entrance to the courtyard, the ropes and all the equipment used in the service of the tent. The Gershonites are to do all that needs to be done with these things. All their service, whether carrying or doing other work, is to be done under the direction of Aaron and his sons. You shall assign to them as their responsibility all they are to carry. This is the service of the Gershonite clans at the tent of meeting. Their duties are to be under the direction of Ithamar son of Aaron, the priest.

The Lord says to count the Merarites by their clans and families. Count all the men from thirty to fifty years of age who come to serve in the work at the tent of meeting. As part of all their service at the tent, they are to carry the frames of the tabernacle, its crossbars, posts and bases, as well as the posts of the surrounding courtyard with their bases, tent pegs, ropes, all their equipment and everything related to their use. Assign to each man the specific things he is to carry. This is the service of the Merarite clans as they work at the tent of meeting under the direction of Ithamar son of Aaron, the priest.

Moses, Aaron and the leaders of the community counted the Kohathites by their clans and families. All the men from thirty to fifty years of age who came to serve in the work at the tent of meeting, counted by clans, were 2,750.
The Gershonites were counted by their clans and families. All the men from thirty to fifty years of age who came to serve in the work at the tent of meeting, counted by their clans and families, were 2,630.
The Merarites were counted by their clans and families. All the men from thirty to fifty years of age who came to serve in the work at the tent of meeting, counted by their clans, were 3,200.

The total of these Levites counted were 8,580. Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

1 And Jehovah speaketh unto Moses, and unto Aaron, saying,

2 `Take up the sum of the sons of Kohath from the midst of the sons of Levi, by their families, by the house of their fathers;

3 from a son of thirty years and upward, even till a son of fifty years, every one going in to the host, to do work in the tent of meeting.

4 `This [is] the service of the sons of Kohath in the tent of meeting, the holy of holies:

5 that Aaron and his sons have come in, in the journeying of the camp, and have taken down the vail of the hanging, and have covered with it the ark of the testimony;

6 and have put on it a covering of badger skin, and have spread a garment completely of blue above, and have placed its staves.

7 `And on the table of the presence they spread a garment of blue, and have put on it the dishes, and the spoons, and the bowls, and the cups of the libation, and the bread of continuity is on it,

8 and they have spread over them a garment of scarlet, and have covered it with a covering of badger skin, and have placed its staves,

9 and have taken a garment of blue, and have covered the candlestick of the lamp, and its lights, and its snuffers, and its snuff-dishes, and all its oil vessels wherewith they minister to it;

10 and they have put it and all its vessels unto a covering of badger skin, and have put [it] on the bar.

11 `And on the golden altar they spread a garment of blue, and have covered it with a covering of badger skin, and have placed its staves;

12 and have taken all the vessels of ministry wherewith they minister in the sanctuary, and have put [them] unto a garment of blue, and have covered them with a covering of badger skin, and have put [them] on the bar,

13 and have removed the ashes of the altar, and have spread over it a garment of purple;

14 and have put on it all its vessels wherewith they minister about it, the censers, the hooks, and the shovels, and the bowls, all the vessels of the altar, and have spread on it a covering of badger skin, and have placed its staves:

15 `And Aaron hath finished -- his sons also -- covering the sanctuary, and all the vessels of the sanctuary, in the journeying of the camp, and afterwards do the sons of Kohath come in to bear [it], and they do not come unto the holy thing, that they have died; these [things are] the burden of the sons of Kohath in the tent of meeting.

16 `And the oversight of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, [is] the oil of the lamp, and the spice-perfume, and the present of continuity, and the anointing oil, the oversight of all the tabernacle, and of all that [is] in it, in the sanctuary, and in its vessels.'

17 And Jehovah speaketh unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,

18 `Ye do not cut off the tribe of the families of the Kohathite from the midst of the Levites;

19 but this do to them, and they have lived, and do not die in their drawing nigh the holy of holies: -- Aaron and his sons go in, and have set them, each man to his service, and unto his burden,

20 and they go not in to see when the holy thing is swallowed, that they have died.'

21 And Jehovah speaketh unto Moses, saying,

22 `Take up the sum of the sons of Gershon also by the house of their fathers, by their families;

23 from a son of thirty years and upward, till a son of fifty years thou dost number them, every one who is going in to serve the host, to do the service in the tent of meeting.

24 `This [is] the service of the families of the Gershonite, to serve -- and for burden,

25 and they have borne the curtains of the tabernacle, and the tent of meeting, its covering, and the covering of the badger [skin] which [is] on it above, and the vail at the opening of the tent of meeting,

26 and the hangings of the court, and the vail at the opening of the gate of the court which [is] by the tabernacle, and by the altar round about, and their cords, and all the vessels of their service, and all that is made for them -- and they have served.

27 `By the command of Aaron and his sons is all the service of the sons of the Gershonite in all their burden, and in all their service; and ye have laid a charge on them concerning the charge of all their burden.

28 This [is] the service of the families of the sons of the Gershonite in the tent of meeting; and their charge [is] under the hand of Ithamar son of Aaron the priest.

29 `The sons of Merari, by their families, by the house of their fathers, thou dost number them;

30 from a son of thirty years and upward even unto a son of fifty years thou dost number them, every one who is going in to the host, to do the service of the tent of meeting.

31 `And this [is] the charge of their burden, of all their service in the tent of meeting; the boards of the tabernacle, and its bars, and its pillars, and its sockets,

32 and the pillars of the court round about, and their sockets, and their pins, and their cords, of all their vessels, and of all their service; and by name ye do number the vessels of the charge of their burden.

33 `This [is] the service of the families of the sons of Merari, for all their service, in the tent of meeting, by the hand of Ithamar son of Aaron the priest.'

34 And Moses numbereth -- Aaron also, and the princes of the company -- the sons of the Kohathite, by their families, and by the house of their fathers,

35 from a son of thirty years and upward even unto a son of fifty years, every one who is going in to the host, for service in the tent of meeting,

36 and their numbered ones, by their families, are two thousand seven hundred and fifty.

37 These [are] those numbered of the families of the Kohathite, every one who is serving in the tent of meeting, whom Moses and Aaron numbered, by the command of Jehovah, by the hand of Moses.

38 And those numbered of the sons of Gershon, by their families, and by the house of their fathers,

39 from a son of thirty years and upward even unto a son of fifty years, every one who is going in to the host, for service in the tent of meeting,

40 even their numbered ones, by their families, by the house of their fathers, are two thousand and six hundred and thirty.

41 These [are] those numbered of the families of the sons of Gershon, every one who is serving in the tent of meeting, whom Moses and Aaron numbered by the command of Jehovah.

42 And those numbered of the families of the sons of Merari, by their families, by the house of their fathers,

43 from a son of thirty years and upward even unto a son of fifty years, every one who is going in to the host, for service in the tent of meeting,

44 even their numbered ones, by their families, are three thousand and two hundred.

45 These [are] those numbered of the families of the sons of Merari, whom Moses and Aaron numbered, by the command of Jehovah, by the hand of Moses.

46 All those numbered, whom Moses numbered -- Aaron also, and the princes of Israel -- of the Levites, by their families, and by the house of their fathers,

47 from a son of thirty years and upward even unto a son of fifty years, every one who is going in to do the work of the service, even the service of burden in the tent of meeting,

48 even their numbered ones are eight thousand and five hundred and eighty;

49 by the command of Jehovah hath [one] numbered them, by the hand of Moses, each man by his service, and by his burden, with his numbered ones, as Jehovah hath commanded Moses.

[_Ceeboo]

Is it just me or is there anybody else who has their Bible open while following along in this thread!




Peace,
Ceeboo