Bible verse by verse

[Guest]

The ignore the supernatural, one MUST prove that the formation of life from non living matter is a natural process that happens again and again. The "naturalist," cannot even prove that it ever happened, let alone that it will happen or does happen.

In other words, the existence of unanswered questions about evolution = we live in a Harry Potter universe.

That simple point alone suggests the miraculous.

No, that "simple point" alone simply suggests the existence of questions that have not yet been answered. But you would have us conclude that unanswered questions = we live in a Harry Potter universe.

And to simply ignore that point is to be "conveniently" irrational.

I'm not ignoring it. See above.

The use term such as, possible, probable, most likely, etc. ---- doesn't make such rationalizations ABSOLUTE!

I don't believe I've used any of those terms.

[_LittleNipper]

Your original point was that if the Bible was true, then there should be information there in about hand washing.

I don't know how things work in your house but where I come from, hand washing involves the use of soap and water.

I produce this reality and you choose to cast it aside.

Your response said nothing about soap. Furthermore, you disingenuously attempted to conflate an ancient purification ritual with an antiseptic procedure involving an antiseptic solution of chlorinated lime.

The Bible is clear that various things were unclean and washing required certain procedures.

But it says nothing about mild disinfectants such as primitive soap--it's dishonest of you to infer that Old Testament purification rites were the equivalent of Ignaz Semmelweis' antiseptic procedures.

To suggest that Egyptians and others already knew this and practiced is of non sequitur.

Not just the Egyptians, but also the Babylonians, the Chinese, and the Romans--if these civilazations knew about soap, then why not the Israelites?

Jeremiah 2:22

New International Version
Although you wash yourself with soap and use an abundance of cleansing powder, the stain of your guilt is still before me," declares the Sovereign LORD.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

Although you wash yourself with soap and use an abundance of cleansing powder, the stain of your guilt is still before me," declares the Sovereign LORD.

Cleansing powder imported from Babylon.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

At least you've stopped claiming Chinese ideograms are related to the Biblical flood. That's progress, I suppose.

[Guest]

To ignore the supernatural, one MUST prove that the formation of life from non living matter is a natural process that happens again and again. The "naturalist," cannot even prove that it ever happened, let alone that it will happen or does happen.

In other words, the existence of unanswered questions about evolution = we live in a Harry Potter universe.

A post modern generation invented "Harry Potter," to fill the void they themselves have opened. Potter is quite an inferior character in a discussion concerning GOD. The realty is that you cover up your philosophical "rationalizations" by interjections of the absurd. Such frivolity does nothing to support your position.

[_LittleNipper]

At least you've stopped claiming Chinese ideograms are related to the Biblical flood. That's progress, I suppose.

Not really. I do not consider modern interpretations of Chinese ideograms have anything to do with regards to the actual origin of the characters themselves ---- which are quite ancient and often have other archaic meanings. It's the archaic means that seem to relate to the Biblical flood epic. And it is a fact that Chinese writing developed from a form of a picture graphic shorthand, that eventually came to represent sounds.

[_ludwigm]

FYI

Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis (July 1, 1818 – August 13, 1865) --- born Ignác Fülöp Semmelweis --- was a Hungarian physician
.

FYI - more
Born July 1, 1818 Buda, Hungary
Died August 13, 1865 (aged 47) Vienna, Austrian Empire (now Austria)
Residence Hungary
Citizenship Kingdom of Hungary
Nationality Hungarian
Fields Obstetrics, surgeries
Alma mater Universities of Vienna and Pest
Known for Introducing hand disinfection standards, in obstetrical clinics, from 1847

[_The Erotic Apologist]

A post modern generation invented "Harry Potter," to fill the void they themselves have opened.

That doesn't sound like you at all, Nipper. Are you cutting-and-pasting other peoples' words in place of your own again?

Potter is quite inferior character in a discussion concerning GOD.

In point of fact, the fictional character known as Harry Potter is far more sympathetic than the ancient war god of the tribal Hebrews, who is also a fictional character.

The realty is that you cover up your philosophical "rationalizations" by interjections of the absurd.

No, my use of Harry Potter is not a philosophical rationalization; it's an attempt to illustrate my point with an example--my point being your erroneous conclusion that unanswered questions = we live in a magical, supernatural universe. (There, I took out the part about Harry Potter...do you get it now?)

Such frivolity does nothing to support your position.

You're still completely missing the point, Nipper. See above.

[_The Erotic Apologist]

At least you've stopped claiming Chinese ideograms are related to the Biblical flood. That's progress, I suppose.

Not really. I do not consider modern interpretations of Chinese ideograms have anything to do with regards to the actual origin of the characters themselves...

That's because you still don't know anything about Chinese ideograms other than what you cut-and-paste (often without proper attribution) from apologetic sites. Go take a couple years worth of university-level Chinese courses while simultaneously living in China and you'll understand exactly how little you know at this point in time.

Again, this is a wonderful example of why you should do your own research instead of simply cutting-and-pasting blocks of text from wacky religious sites.

...which are quite ancient and often have other archaic meanings.

No, you've got it totally bass akwards.

It's the archaic means that seem to relate to the Biblical flood epic.

Would it surprise you to know that Chinese scholars already know how and from where their ideograms originated? Hint: it has nothing to do with the Biblical flood.

And it is a fact that Chinese writing developed from a form of a picture graphic shorthand, that eventually came to represent sounds.

Congratulations, you've just described how the writing system known as the Roman Alphabet came into being. You still have no idea what you're talking about.

[Guest]

FYI

Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis (July 1, 1818 – August 13, 1865) --- born Ignác Fülöp Semmelweis --- was a Hungarian physician
.

FYI - more
Born July 1, 1818 Buda, Hungary
Died August 13, 1865 (aged 47) Vienna, Austrian Empire (now Austria)
Residence Hungary
Citizenship Kingdom of Hungary
Nationality Hungarian
Fields Obstetrics, surgeries
Alma mater Universities of Vienna and Pest
Known for Introducing hand disinfection standards, in obstetrical clinics, from 1847

Yes, but was Dr. Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis as studly Joseph Petzval? Hmmmmmm...