Regrets over resigning?

[_Tobin]

If you stretch hard enough, you can justify damn near anything, and if that is the kind of society you prefer, you are welcome to it. The argument supporting this policy is non-existent. Maybe you should offer your services as the man who has seen God. Clearly they need help. Although I have yet to see what the point of your experience was, other than to turn you into a tireless troll.

It isn't much of a stretch since I've already provided you scriptural examples to justify their position. As I pointed out (and you seem to have simply ignored what I said), Jesus Christ himself (the example all Christians supposedly follow) wasn't baptized till he was likely 30 years old. If it was so important for him to be baptized at 8 years old, he certainly could have been baptized at that age (after all, we are talking about God here). So for you to pretend there isn't an argument supporting waiting till a later age to baptize people, you are simply ignoring the Bible stories.

Now, as far as my experience with what you might call God, it has taught me to be suspicious of people that claim to know what God wants. I extend that suspicion to the leaders of the LDS Church and to you Kishkumen.

[_Tobin]

[MODERATOR NOTE: Please think really hard about that admonition. Do you truly think that enouraging participants to ignore each other aligns with the spirit upon which the board was founded?]

Ignore is a feature of the board that has been available for members since its inception. With all due respect, Shades, if you have a problem with members using and discussing a feature of the board that is readily available to all, then maybe the Ignore feature should be eliminated.

If you wish to ignore me Jesse, that is perfectly fine. After all, I really don't think you have anything substantial to say. I think where you cross the line is when you encourage others to ignore me. That smacks of pettiness and seems like you are trying to take revenge for the many times I've made you look like a fool.

[_Kishkumen]

It isn't much of a stretch since I've already provided you scriptural examples to justify their position. As I pointed out (and you seem to have simply ignored what I said), Jesus Christ himself (the example all Christians supposedly follow) wasn't baptized till he was likely 30 years old. If it was so important for him to be baptized at 8 years old, he certainly could have been baptized at that age (after all, we are talking about God here). So for you to pretend there isn't an argument supporting waiting till a later age to baptize people, you are simply ignoring the Bible stories.

Now, as far as my experience with what you might call God, it has taught me to be suspicious of people that claim to know what God wants. I extend that suspicion to the leaders of the LDS Church and to you Kishkumen.

I am not ignoring the Bible stories, Tobin. Listen, if you want to accept a crappy argument to defend a bad policy, be my guest. But it is a crappy argument and a bad policy. It is basic LDS 101 that the revelations of today govern the Church. It is also the case that the scriptures Trump policy. On this basis, I judge the modern revelation to baptize at 8, coupled with the spirit of Christ's teachings on children, to Trump policy.

I am somewhat surprised, frankly, that you would defend the idea that the leaders can do as they damn well please without any regard to their own rule book and with impunity. Yes, as a practical matter that would seem to be the case, but it is troubling to see people doggedly argue the point as though it were a desirable outcome.

I don't often talk about what God wants, Tobin. That should tell you something. It means that I care enough about the value at stake to venture to say that if there is a God, he would only be worthy of my worship if he were not behind this policy. We are defined by our aspirations, I believe. I am comfortable being defined by the aspiration to see all children treated fairly and in a nurturing way. The LDS Church seems to value its tax exempt privilege more than its children. That is ass backwards, in my view.

[_Jesse Pinkman]

If you wish to ignore me Jesse, that is perfectly fine. After all, I really don't think you have anything substantial to say. I think where you cross the line is when you encourage others to ignore me. That smacks of pettiness and seems like you are trying to take revenge for the many times I've made you look like a fool.

You are obviously fantasizing, Tobin. I don't ever even recall having any type of in depth discussion with you. I just thought that you were so "out there" with your whole alien story that I just didn't want to bother reading all of your posts, and put you on ignore. Since then, you have just become a useless troll, so I'm happy that my instincts were correct in cleaning up my view of the board by putting you on ignore and shrinking down all of your insipid comments.

Kish has a hell of a lot of patience. That's something I have always admired. If he chooses to continue to engage you, that is certainly his call. All I was doing was reminding him that Ignore is a nice feature of the board that, in the case of dealing with you, might be a nice option for him. It has certainly been nice for me.

[_Chap]

If you wish to ignore me Jesse, that is perfectly fine. After all, I really don't think you have anything substantial to say. I think where you cross the line is when you encourage others to ignore me. That smacks of pettiness and seems like you are trying to take revenge for the many times I've made you look like a fool.

You are obviously fantasizing, Tobin. I don't ever even recall having any type of in depth discussion with you. I just thought that you were so "out there" with your whole alien story that I just didn't want to bother reading all of your posts, and put you on ignore. Since then, you have just become a useless troll, so I'm happy that my instincts were correct in cleaning up my view of the board by putting you on ignore and shrinking down all of your insipid comments.

Kish has a hell of a lot of patience. That's something I have always admired. If he chooses to continue to engage you, that is certainly his call. All I was doing was reminding him that Ignore is a nice feature of the board that, in the case of dealing with you, might be a nice option for him. It has certainly been nice for me.

Tobin - who has proclaimed to many members of this board that he has put them on ignore - is now complaining that someone has pointed out that he can be subjected to exactly the same procedure by people who wish to avoid the temptation to reply to his incessant and one-note trolling?

Well, maybe two notes:

1. You are stupid and I find your ignorance hilarious.
3. See and speak with God. (Well, yes he almost certainly won't be bothered to speak to you. But if you don't try, you are an idiot).

by the way, I have had Tobin on ignore for some time now. It feels good, and the board seems a nicer place.

[_sock puppet]

You are obviously fantasizing, Tobin. I don't ever even recall having any type of in depth discussion with you. I just thought that you were so "out there" with your whole alien story that I just didn't want to bother reading all of your posts, and put you on ignore. Since then, you have just become a useless troll, so I'm happy that my instincts were correct in cleaning up my view of the board by putting you on ignore and shrinking down all of your insipid comments.

Kish has a hell of a lot of patience. That's something I have always admired. If he chooses to continue to engage you, that is certainly his call. All I was doing was reminding him that Ignore is a nice feature of the board that, in the case of dealing with you, might be a nice option for him. It has certainly been nice for me.

Tobin - who has proclaimed to many members of this board that he has put them on ignore - is now complaining that someone has pointed out that he can be subjected to exactly the same procedure by people who wish to avoid the temptation to reply to his incessant and one-note trolling?

Well, maybe two notes:

1. You are stupid and I find your ignorance hilarious.
3. See and speak with God. (Well, yes he almost certainly won't be bothered to speak to you. But if you don't try, you are an idiot).

by the way, I have had Tobin on ignore for some time now. It feels good, and the board seems a nicer place.

If only the ignore feature would also blot out his insipid posts when quoted by others whom I do not have on ignore. Trollbin and I have each been on the other's ignore lists for years--in fact, he has at most times been the only one I have on ignore. I probably should add 4 or 5 others.

[_Tobin]

I am not ignoring the Bible stories, Tobin. Listen, if you want to accept a crappy argument to defend a bad policy, be my guest. But it is a crappy argument and a bad policy. It is basic LDS 101 that the revelations of today govern the Church. It is also the case that the scriptures Trump policy. On this basis, I judge the modern revelation to baptize at 8, coupled with the spirit of Christ's teachings on children, to Trump policy.

It isn't a crappy argument. In your response before this one, you claimed there was no justification in scripture for waiting. Yet obviously Jesus did. So I'd submit that the idea that one must be baptized at 8 years old is nonsense. And isn't it also LDS 101 that the top LDS leaders are prophets, seers, and revelators? If they are what they claim, it seems like they are in a better position to decide what is revealed policy and what isn't. Maybe they felt this is what God wanted them to do. That is all the justification they need under LDS 101.

I am somewhat surprised, frankly, that you would defend the idea that the leaders can do as they damn well please without any regard to their own rule book and with impunity. Yes, as a practical matter that would seem to be the case, but it is troubling to see people doggedly argue the point as though it were a desirable outcome.

The LDS Church pretends to be God's one and only true church. Its leaders pretend they are doing what God wants them to on a constant basis. I think it should be obvious to anyone that they can do whatever the hell they want and say God put them up to it. You know what they say about absolute power don't you?

I don't often talk about what God wants, Tobin. That should tell you something. It means that I care enough about the value at stake to venture to say that if there is a God, he would only be worthy of my worship if he were not behind this policy. We are defined by our aspirations, I believe. I am comfortable being defined by the aspiration to see all children treated fairly and in a nurturing way. The LDS Church seems to value its tax exempt privilege more than its children. That is ass backwards, in my view.

I don't pretend to know what motivates each and every LDS leader, but I doubt for many of them tax exemption is the reason behind this policy. As I've pointed out repeatedly, the LDS Church is not a gay-friendly organization and there is a certain logic from their point-of-view in this policy.

[_Tobin]

You are obviously fantasizing, Tobin. I don't ever even recall having any type of in depth discussion with you. I just thought that you were so "out there" with your whole alien story that I just didn't want to bother reading all of your posts, and put you on ignore. Since then, you have just become a useless troll, so I'm happy that my instincts were correct in cleaning up my view of the board by putting you on ignore and shrinking down all of your insipid comments.

Kish has a hell of a lot of patience. That's something I have always admired. If he chooses to continue to engage you, that is certainly his call. All I was doing was reminding him that Ignore is a nice feature of the board that, in the case of dealing with you, might be a nice option for him. It has certainly been nice for me.

Yet another insightful and profound post about the topic I'm discussing with Kishkumen and Shades. For those following along, Jesse claims to lack critical thinking skills or the ability to read for comprehension when it comes to my posts. Shocking!?! I know.

[_Jersey Girl]

If you wish to ignore me Jesse, that is perfectly fine. After all, I really don't think you have anything substantial to say. I think where you cross the line is when you encourage others to ignore me. That smacks of pettiness and seems like you are trying to take revenge for the many times I've made you look like a fool.

You know what? Let me know when someone tells you to burn in hell and calls you evil scum of the earth, then we'll talk.

Otherwise suck it up buttercup.

p.s. I had to take you off ignore to read the above post in it's original form.

[_Tobin]

You know what? Let me know when someone tells you to burn in hell and calls you evil scum of the earth, then we'll talk.

Otherwise suck it up buttercup.

p.s. I had to take you off ignore to read the above post in it's original form.

This has something to do with the price of tea in China exactly why? And way to go being your own person and not going along with the psychotic group-think that is prevalent here. Oh wait, that is what you were doing?!?