Tobin wrote:It is disparaging and hypocritical because it isn't true. I've pointing out that AmyJo/Rosebud are merely making and/or repeating unsubstantiated and slanderous charges. Multiple times they have been asked to provide evidence of their claims. All they have been able to do is point to Mr. Karren's claims/charges that he has posted on the web (or repeat them multiple times in posts on this thread). I think questioning a biased source like that is completely legitimate and hardly lacks substance.
The sad thing is that I agree with you that, thus far, we haven't seen anything of substance from Ronald Karren, so I'm not inclined to accept his accusations until he provides some solid evidence. Given his apparent conduct during his divorce proceedings, he seems to have a few issues.
That said, you've spent a hell of a lot of time taking personal shots at AmyJo and Rosebud, and that's what I'm referring to.
AmyJo wrote: Heck I may do the same. That way I won't need to deal with his riff raff either.
Didn't know that was an option either until your posting about it.
It's nice. I've made a lot of progress in my life since I decided to start cutting out people who spend a lot of time insulting me. They take up a lot of energy.
Well played. Your attention is their reward. After a while Tobin will just be talking to himself.
Tobin wrote:It is disparaging and hypocritical because it isn't true. I've pointing out that AmyJo/Rosebud are merely making and/or repeating unsubstantiated and slanderous charges. Multiple times they have been asked to provide evidence of their claims. All they have been able to do is point to Mr. Karren's claims/charges that he has posted on the web (or repeat them multiple times in posts on this thread). I think questioning a biased source like that is completely legitimate and hardly lacks substance.
The sad thing is that I agree with you that, thus far, we haven't seen anything of substance from Ronald Karren, so I'm not inclined to accept his accusations until he provides some solid evidence. Given his apparent conduct during his divorce proceedings, he seems to have a few issues.
That said, you've spent a hell of a lot of time taking personal shots at AmyJo and Rosebud, and that's what I'm referring to.
Yep. That's some ugly crap, even by Tobin standards. I really hope Shades takes some kind of action, particularly where he's accusing board members of infidelity and such.
AmyJo wrote: Heck I may do the same. That way I won't need to deal with his riff raff either.
Didn't know that was an option either until your posting about it.
It's nice. I've made a lot of progress in my life since I decided to start cutting out people who spend a lot of time insulting me. They take up a lot of energy.
Runtu wrote:That said, you've spent a hell of a lot of time taking personal shots at AmyJo and Rosebud, and that's what I'm referring to.
As you know, I have a low tolerance for idiots. After the nth time asking for some legitimate evidence and being responded to with the same mind-numbing blather, I sometimes (ok, most of the time) like to point out the respondent may have something wrong with them.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:It is disparaging and hypocritical because it isn't true. I've pointing out that AmyJo/Rosebud are merely making and/or repeating unsubstantiated and slanderous charges. Multiple times they have been asked to provide evidence of their claims. All they have been able to do is point to Mr. Karren's claims/charges that he has posted on the web (or repeat them multiple times in posts on this thread). I think questioning a biased source like that is completely legitimate and hardly lacks substance.
The sad thing is that I agree with you that, thus far, we haven't seen anything of substance from Ronald Karren, so I'm not inclined to accept his accusations until he provides some solid evidence. Given his apparent conduct during his divorce proceedings, he seems to have a few issues.
That said, you've spent a hell of a lot of time taking personal shots at AmyJo and Rosebud, and that's what I'm referring to.
It's important to recognize that trolls misrepresent others' posts intentionally and well-meaning people misrepresent others' posts innocently.
I request that anyone who has a question about what I have and have not said refer to my posts rather than Tobin's (or anyone's) representations of them. People try to put words in my mouth -- just because someone says I said something does not mean that I said it.
Runtu wrote:That said, you've spent a hell of a lot of time taking personal shots at AmyJo and Rosebud, and that's what I'm referring to.
As you know, I have a low tolerance for idiots. After the nth time asking for some legitimate evidence and being responded to with the same mind-numbing blather, I sometimes (ok, most of the time) like to point out the respondent may have something wrong with them.
You lying piece of crap. You accused someone of sleeping with Karren. God, you're disgusting.
Maksutov wrote:Yep. That's some ugly s***, even by Tobin standards. I really hope Shades takes some kind of action, particularly where he's accusing board members of infidelity and such.
Right. Because championing baseless accusations of child abuse isn't ugly at all.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Maksutov wrote:You lying piece of s***. You accused someone of sleeping with Karren. God, you're disgusting.
I did? I asked a question, which went unanswered and wasn't denied. I find that very interesting.
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"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
I'm in the shower picking up fallen brain cells as I type this...
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
