Trump finally found someone to sing at the inauguration!

[_I have a question]

https://www.change.org/p/the-church-of- ... auguration

Petition is now up to 15,000

[_Philo Sofee]

Scott Lloyd was quoted as saying:
Scott Lloyd wrote:

Those Church members who object to the appearance by the choir because they are mad at Trump are being myopic or, perhaps, showing they don't care about the Church achieving prominence through positive means such as the choir's appearance. I hereby invoke the power of Bruce R. McConkie and cast ye naysayers into the charcoal pit of Outer Darkness. Thread closed!

What a laughable, pompous myopic man.

[_Philo Sofee]

Let not forget this if our country goes to sh**
When will LDS church and it's members learn to keep religion out of politics?

Only when they defeat politics and sucker as many as they can into their version of theocracy and God's Kingdom.

[_mentalgymnast]

If there were ever any doubt that the LDS Church is, at its core racist, homophobic, misogynistic, and fundamentally dishonest, it has just been erased by Mormons lending their signature choir, and wholehearted public support, to an unqualified presidential candidate who is all of these and worse.

I haven't read through this thread beyond this post, but my thinking is that the MoTabChoir is simply looking at the 'greater good'...that is, the sense of patriotism and support of country and the office of president...as the country moves forward at this point. We can either come together or grow farther apart. The MoTab's (and by association the LDS Church), I would think, would just as well support the notion that we all ought to work together for the greater good rather than moving even more towards a fractured state of the union.

Regards,
MG

[_I have a question]

https://www.change.org/p/the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints-mormon-tabernacle-choir-should-not-perform-at-trump-inauguration

Petition is now up to 15,000

LDS leaders announced last week that the choir would perform. Not all 360 singers will make the trip, but church officials have said about 215 are expected to volunteer.

A third aren't going to volunteer - that alone should be enough of a wake up call.
I wonder how many of those dissenters are women?

A lifetime Mormon, Randall Thacker launched the petition (http://bit.ly/2hlCY8p) within hours of the announcement.

"I've sensed a lot of grief around this issue, and I wanted to provide a place to express that," said Thacker, who splits his time between Utah and Washington, D.C., and is a past president of Affirmation, a support organization for gay Latter-day Saints."I'm happy to see my gut was right when it told me so many people felt the same way."

A majority of the petition's signers are Mormons from across the U.S. and around the world. Many express being "saddened and perplexed" by the decision to send the choir and urged church leaders to, "in the name of all that's holy," reconsider.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/4753427-155/ ... e-choir-to

[_alas]

I don't know anything about the inner workings of the MoTab, but I wonder if there are individual choir members who just won't be able to stomach the idea of singing and performing at an event that sustains/endorses and honors Trump.

Would it be okay for such a choir member to abstain?

Yes, we have a friend in the choir who put up a rather frank post on Facebook about the fact that he isn't about to spend his own money to travel to Washington to let the smuck think Mormons approve of him. Only he wasn't near as polite about it as I have been. According to him, only about 1/2 the choir will go. I don't know if that is accurate or just of those members he knows. He also suggested that the reason Trump wanted the MoTab was to prove that Mormons really do love him in spite of some "false reports" during his campaign that Mormons were sticking to principles and not supporting his unAmerican message and immoral behavior.

[_mentalgymnast]

I don't know anything about the inner workings of the MoTab, but I wonder if there are individual choir members who just won't be able to stomach the idea of singing and performing at an event that sustains/endorses and honors Trump.

Would it be okay for such a choir member to abstain?

Yes, we have a friend in the choir who put up a rather frank post on Facebook about the fact that he isn't about to spend his own money to travel to Washington to let the smuck think Mormons approve of him. Only he wasn't near as polite about it as I have been. According to him, only about 1/2 the choir will go. I don't know if that is accurate or just of those members he knows. He also suggested that the reason Trump wanted the MoTab was to prove that Mormons really do love him in spite of some "false reports" during his campaign that Mormons were sticking to principles and not supporting his unAmerican message and immoral behavior.

by the way, my previous comment in no way excuses Trump in any way, shape, or fashion. Just saying why I think the MoTabs are going to DC.

Regards,
MG

[_DoubtingThomas]

I haven't read through this thread beyond this post, but my thinking is that the MoTabChoir is simply looking at the 'greater good'...that is, the sense of patriotism and support of country and the office of president...as the country moves forward at this point. We can either come together or grow farther apart. The MoTab's (and by association the LDS Church), I would think, would just as well support the notion that we all ought to work together for the greater good rather than moving even more towards a fractured state of the union.

Regards,
MG

the real problem is religion in politics, the solution is to keep your religion out of politics.

[_mentalgymnast]

I haven't read through this thread beyond this post, but my thinking is that the MoTabChoir is simply looking at the 'greater good'...that is, the sense of patriotism and support of country and the office of president...as the country moves forward at this point. We can either come together or grow farther apart. The MoTab's (and by association the LDS Church), I would think, would just as well support the notion that we all ought to work together for the greater good rather than moving even more towards a fractured state of the union.

Regards,
MG

the real problem is religion in politics, the solution is to keep your religion out of politics.

Huh? What does this have to do with the MoTabs performing at the Inaugural? I know in the Provo 4th of July Parade we can see the missionaries from the MTC march down the parade route...in their white shirts, no less...but not being preachy. Are you saying that the MoTabs are going to actively be preachy in 'in your face' as they perform at the Inaugural? They've been well received in the past.

Any reason to think they can't add to the spirit of the occasion this time around?

Regards,
MG

[Guest]

Huh? What does this have to do with the MoTabs performing at the Inaugural? I know in the Provo 4th of July Parade we can see the missionaries from the MTC march down the parade route...in their white shirts, no less...but not being preachy. Are you saying that the MoTabs are going to actively be preachy in 'in your face' as they perform at the Inaugural? They've been well received in the past.

Any reason to think they can't add to the spirit of the occasion this time around?

Regards,
MG

It's the Mormon Tabernacle choir, I have no problem if they go as US citizens without representing a religion.

You think most Americans would like Satanic chorus at the inauguration? or even a catholic choir singing praise to the virgin Mary? Don't tell me the Mormon Tabernacle choir is going to sing secular hymns. Just bull.

Not only that, there is overwhelming evidence that Trump presidency is going to be a disaster, but the Mormon Tabernacle choir is basically celebrating a Trump presidency. My A$$ I bet the Mormon Tabernacle choir wouldn't sing for a openly gay president.