Long lives of the antedeluvian patriarchs

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spotlight wrote:Is the book of Moses in the Pearl of Great Price uninspired then per your view?


I consider it very inspired.

by the way - sick today so I'll not be writing much until the weekend. I learned my lesson years ago about posting while sick with a head cold.
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ClarkGoble wrote:
spotlight wrote:Is the book of Moses in the Pearl of Great Price uninspired then per your view?


I consider it very inspired.

by the way - sick today so I'll not be writing much until the weekend. I learned my lesson years ago about posting while sick with a head cold.


Take care of yourself and get better soon. :wink:
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The LDS consider the Scriptures to be inspired by God, but written by fallible mortal men.
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The CCC wrote:The LDS consider the Scriptures to be inspired by God, but written by fallible mortal men.

With a net result that any conflicts with science can be explained away and the religion remains unfalsifiable? :rolleyes:
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The CCC wrote:The LDS consider the Scriptures to be inspired by God, but written by fallible mortal men.


Maybe.

Now if only latter-day prophets were capable of distinguishing which parts are inspired and which parts are simply mortal mistakes. Instead often what we see is a game of Texas bulls-eye where the difference is just based on current acceptance of where the target should be drawn. Today's scripture is tomorrow's mortal fallible mistake.

This is pretty much exactly how scriptural interpretation would look if it were all man made.
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Fence Sitter wrote:
The CCC wrote:The LDS consider the Scriptures to be inspired by God, but written by fallible mortal men.


Maybe.

Now if only latter-day prophets were capable of distinguishing which parts are inspired and which parts are simply mortal mistakes. Instead often what we see is a game of Texas bulls-eye where the difference is just based on current acceptance of where the target should be drawn. Today's scripture is tomorrow's mortal fallible mistake.

This is pretty much exactly how scriptural interpretation would look if it were all merely based man made.



I don't see any reason to treat the D & C and Book of Mormon as more authoritative than the Oahspe or the channeling sessions of Jane Roberts. All could have been inspired, correct? And even the Oahspe has a more modern cosmology than the Book of Abraham. :wink:
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Fence Sitter wrote:
Maybe.

Now if only latter-day prophets were capable of distinguishing which parts are inspired and which parts are simply mortal mistakes. Instead often what we see is a game of Texas bulls-eye where the difference is just based on current acceptance of where the target should be drawn. Today's scripture is tomorrow's mortal fallible mistake.

This is pretty much exactly how scriptural interpretation would look if it were all man made.


There is only one solution for your dilemma. Ask God.
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Which God should I ask?
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The CCC wrote:
Fence Sitter wrote:
Maybe.

Now if only latter-day prophets were capable of distinguishing which parts are inspired and which parts are simply mortal mistakes. Instead often what we see is a game of Texas bulls-eye where the difference is just based on current acceptance of where the target should be drawn. Today's scripture is tomorrow's mortal fallible mistake.

This is pretty much exactly how scriptural interpretation would look if it were all man made.


There is only one solution for your dilemma. Ask God.


You miss his point about ladder prophets not being able to distinguish which parts are inspired and which are not. Remember that Joseph said some revelations are from God, some Satan and some man to explain why the Book of Mormon copyright did not sell. If they cannot distinguish where revelation is coming from from how can you?
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The CCC wrote:
Fence Sitter wrote:
Maybe.

Now if only latter-day prophets were capable of distinguishing which parts are inspired and which parts are simply mortal mistakes. Instead often what we see is a game of Texas bulls-eye where the difference is just based on current acceptance of where the target should be drawn. Today's scripture is tomorrow's mortal fallible mistake.

This is pretty much exactly how scriptural interpretation would look if it were all man made.


There is only one solution for your dilemma. Ask God.


So the solution to the problem of a fallible system that gives inconsistent and even widely contradictory answers is to go get my own unique and inconsistent answer?

This is not my dilemma, as it is clear to me that the answers are not from an exterior source. The dilemma is for those that believe, who have the impossible task of showing how those that do ask God, get the same answers as others asking the same questions of God.

Even within a single religion like Mormonism the variety of answers to the same questions is defacto proof that the response are self generated. You spend time at MDD. No where is it more evident than there that people are just making up their own versions of Mormonism based on what they think God is telling them. The answers from God are far less reliable than even the magic 8 ball, at least the 8 ball has only 20 possible vague answers.
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