Science proves life after death

[_SPG]

So regardless of whether you know a story is true or not, you will use the story as though it were true to support your ideas? Ok. I call that being gullible. The coolness of the story is irrelevant if it is not true.

"True" in this case is entirely relative. Even though I am not an expert on Cargo Cults, only have done minimal research on them, I think my opinion reflects what they think. Even though outside observations have come up with different opinions of what they are doing, I think I'm basically stating their belief.

They are trying to attract the thing they mimic. I don't know all those involved, I'm sure there are many different beliefs.

I used them as an example because I agree with their basic idea. By making images of things we want, we attract them to us. It is not so much different than drawing a building plan for a skyscraper, or a model for a hotel. The level of ignorance in the Cargo Cults is probably higher then that of master architect, but the principle is the same.

The mind needs something to work with to give flesh and bones to the things to be manifested from the spirit world. The idea is still cool, even though social scientists have given different meaning to the creation.

My point was, we must first create the impossible in imaginary form. If the desire holds, and the mind stays disciplined, the universe will slowly give form to the desired thing.

[_Quasimodo]

They're still waiting. No luck yet...

[_Lemmie]

"True" in this case is entirely relative. Even though I am not an expert on Cargo Cults, only have done minimal research on them, I think my opinion reflects what they think. Even though outside observations have come up with different opinions of what they are doing, I think I'm basically stating their belief.

You somehow know their "truth," even though you've done minimal research, and the small knowledge you have says something different. Ok.

...and the mind stays disciplined,...

You must also have your own private definition for disciplined, then.

[_SPG]

They're still waiting. No luck yet...

My mother told me of an experience she had.

It was her first trip to the grand canyon. As she was looking out over the awe inspiring creation she overheard a man say to his wife, "wow, can you believe it took 200 million years to create this and now it just sits here and does nothing."

We humans think that if we are going to invest our faith, it must happen today. Rome wasn't created in a day, nor was human civilization. I understand, even if these guys (pictured above) wait until lunch, a functional airplane may not manifest. But, I'm pretty sure that airplanes have landed and helped these people.

God's promise to Abraham is still in play, even though that promise is about 3000 years old. There may come a day when no human relate to that promise, for now, probably 1/3 of the human population relate to it in some way. They continue to believe and it has a massive influence. I can see us colonizing other worlds and still talking about Abraham.

Again, my intent with this group was to express the idea of believing, acting, and manifesting. Whether these guys are actually good at it, isn't my argument.

[_SPG]

"True" in this case is entirely relative. Even though I am not an expert on Cargo Cults, only have done minimal research on them, I think my opinion reflects what they think. Even though outside observations have come up with different opinions of what they are doing, I think I'm basically stating their belief.

You somehow know their "truth," even though you've done minimal research, and the small knowledge you have says something different. Ok.

...and the mind stays disciplined,...

You must also have your own private definition for disciplined, then.

Of course I have my own private definitions, what average crazy guy wouldn't? But they are in tune with common American ideals.

Mental discipline is to remain focused on an intent, desire, or purpose. The conscious and subconsciousness will provide solution and guide you in the way to manifest your desires. Distractions can take you away from what you want.

No amount of research can give a person a full of understanding of anything. Everything is connected and related, so to truly know one thing, you must know all things, and only God can do that. So yes, I used my slim understanding of a people to make a point.

[_Lemmie]

Of course I have my own private definitions, what average crazy guy wouldn't?

Can't argue with that.

[_SPG]

Of course I have my own private definitions, what average crazy guy wouldn't?

Can't argue with that.

Sounds argumentative to me.

[Guest]

Of course I have my own private definitions, what average crazy guy wouldn't?

Can't argue with that.

Sounds argumentative to me.

You'll have to be specific about your definition of argumentative then. I'm using the standard definition, where 'can't argue with' is used to indicate a non-argumentative position.

[_SPG]

Can't argue with that.

[Sounds argumentative to me.

You'll have to be specific about your definition of argumentative then. I'm using the standard definition, where 'can't argue with' is used to indicate a non-argumentative position.

In polite society, when someone puts themselves down, it's rude to agree with them. Thus agreeing with someone that is debasing themselves is consider argumentative. Sheeesh, where did you go to Sunday School?

[_Lemmie]

Can't argue with that.

Sounds argumentative to me.

You'll have to be specific about your definition of argumentative then. I'm using the standard definition, where 'can't argue with' is used to indicate a non-argumentative position.

In polite society, when someone puts themselves down, it's rude to agree with them. Thus agreeing with someone that is debasing themselves is consider argumentative. Sheeesh, where did you go to Sunday School?

Sorry, I had no idea you were debasing yourself, it didn't sound any crazier than anything else you've written in this thread!