Discussion of the ''DCP / plagiarism'' thread

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Jesus, JP. You're worse than MG.

To get the thread back on track, I wanted to come back to this very important observation by DrW.

Gerald Bradford made additional observations at the time, in effect stating that the approach taken in the past was simply not professional and did not reflect well on the University.

I doubt he would brook any possibility that the approach he oversees now would be allowed to be tainted, repeatedly, with documented plagiarism.

- Doc

[_Jesse Pinkman]

Then I assume you will be reporting Philo’s post as well? Philo made a comment about a comparison thread to yours on Mormon Dialogue & Discussion Board

JP, Philo never mentioned "Mormon Dialogue" at all. He explicitly mentioned it was "Faith Promoting Rumor." As you are well aware, they are completely different websites/forums.

Please just leave this thread alone. Your contributions on his thread amount to nothing more than several unsuccessful attempts to bully, derail and feign ignorance.

Please do not respond to this post unless you want to discuss the numerous examples set forth in this thread about Peterson's plagarizing.

I actually was not aware of that. I thought that Faith Promoting Rumor was a pet name that Philo had come up with for MDDB. Thank you for telling me that. I will google the website.

[_mentalgymnast]

So again, you are being overly sensitive and accusing me of trolling which was not my goal...

Another episode of Deja Vu kicking in...

I didn’t threaten you in any way, nor did I curse you out. I simply told you to get off your high horse.

Good luck with that ever happening.

Regards,
MG

[Guest]

For what it's worth, I have communicated via email with Dan. I suggested that he, at the very least, go through Lemmie's thread and make sure that anything he failed to attribute was corrected and documented. He said that was a good idea, and is in the process of doing that. He did reiterate that the incidents mentioned were unintentional, and due to poor note-taking on his part. He also said that he had absolutely no problem attributing the authors. As Tom noted in an earlier post, you can see that he is in the process of doing that, and has already gone through and corrected some of those errors. Since the holidays just ended, and I'm assuming he has a full teaching schedule, I think we need to give the man an opportunity to correct this, which, I think that at this point, is the best he can do. I'm sure that most here would prefer to have BYU fire him flat-out.

However, considering some of the other cases of plagiarism by professors that have been cited, it sounds like at least one professor accused is still teaching there.

ETA-I think it is also worth noting that even in the incident that DrW talked about, regarding the plagiarizer that his company finally fired, his company worked with the man for years before actually letting him go.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

For what it's worth, I have communicated via email with Dan. I suggested that he, at the very least, go through Lemmie's thread and make sure that anything he failed to attribute was corrected and documented. He said that was a good idea, and is in the process of doing that. As Tom noted in an earlier post, you can see that he is in the process of doing that, and has already gone through and corrected some of those errors. Since the holidays just ended, and I'm assuming he has a full teaching schedule, I think we need to give the man an opportunity to correct this, which, I think that at this point, is the best he can do. I'm sure that most here would prefer to have BYU fire him flat-out.

However, considering some of the other cases of plagiarism by professors that have been cited, it sounds like at least one professor accused is still teaching there.

How far back would you like an example of Peterson plagiarizing and publishing material? Let me know a year, and I'll see what I can do for you.

- Doc

[_Jesse Pinkman]

For what it's worth, I have communicated via email with Dan. I suggested that he, at the very least, go through Lemmie's thread and make sure that anything he failed to attribute was corrected and documented. He said that was a good idea, and is in the process of doing that. As Tom noted in an earlier post, you can see that he is in the process of doing that, and has already gone through and corrected some of those errors. Since the holidays just ended, and I'm assuming he has a full teaching schedule, I think we need to give the man an opportunity to correct this, which, I think that at this point, is the best he can do. I'm sure that most here would prefer to have BYU fire him flat-out.

However, considering some of the other cases of plagiarism by professors that have been cited, it sounds like at least one professor accused is still teaching there.

How far back would you like an example of Peterson plagiarizing and publishing material? Let me know a year, and I'll see what I can do for you.

- Doc

Please feel free to do so. That way, he can go back and correct those instances too, as long as he still has access to the ability to edit. Might as well keep it all on one thread at this point.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

JP,

YOU tell ME what year you would like an example of Peterson plagiarizing and I'll see what I can do. So far he's been "unintentionally" plagiarizing material since at least 2008 when I busted him.

I mean, we got this from 2011:

Leonard Arrington is Given the "Frankenstein" Treatment on MST. The Daniel Peterson vanity project known as "Mormon Scholars Testify" reached its nadir position when the Administrator in Chief cobbled together a plagiarized/manipulated version of LDS scholar Leonard Arrington's published works in order to make it seem as if the late, revered and venerable Arrington had given his endorsement to the Website.

Is he going to correct the record on Brother Arrington's 'contribution' to MST?

- Doc

[Guest]

Also, JP, I don't see why you're shedding a crocodile tear over this topic. Read this excellent thread by Grindael, and it becomes clear the apologists don't have a problem calling someone out if they think they're guilty of "unintentionally" plagiarizing material:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35963&start=21

- Doc

[Guest]

Also, JP, I don't see why you're sheeing a crocodile tear over this topic. Read this excellent thread by Grindael, and it becomes clear the apologists don't have a problem calling someone out if they think they're guilty of "unintentionally" plagiarizing material:

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... 3&start=21

- Doc

I admire Grant Palmer’s work very much, and from what I read of that 7+ page thread, I don’t think he was treated fairly.

For what it’s worth.

[_Jesse Pinkman]

JP,

YOU tell ME what year you would like an example of Peterson plagiarizing and I'll see what I can do. So far he's been "unintentionally" plagiarizing material since at least 2008 when I busted him.

I mean, we got this from 2011:

Leonard Arrington is Given the "Frankenstein" Treatment on MST. The Daniel Peterson vanity project known as "Mormon Scholars Testify" reached its nadir position when the Administrator in Chief cobbled together a plagiarized/manipulated version of LDS scholar Leonard Arrington's published works in order to make it seem as if the late, revered and venerable Arrington had given his endorsement to the Website.

Is he going to correct the record on Brother Arrington's 'contribution' to MST?

- Doc

I don’t know, Doc. Why don’t you ask him?